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May 16, 2005

Bar association honors Greer

Topics: Legal affairs

It is hard to believe (emphasis mine):

ST. PETERSBURG - In the last year, he has been maligned as a murderer, had his face plastered on posters wearing a Hitler mustache and still gets threats upon his life.

But among his colleagues, Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer has become an icon. About 200 judges and lawyers gave him rousing applause and whistles of respect Friday, after he won the St. Petersburg Bar Association's judicial appreciation award for an unprecedented second year in a row.

Greer, 63, who oversaw the end-of-life drama of Terri Schiavo, made the legal community "proud to be lawyers," said attorney John Biesinger III, who presented the award. His "grace and professionalism was inspiring."


Posted by tim at May 16, 2005 6:39 AM

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I thinks they proclaim I mean protest too much??? This is so sickening and as far as I am concerned each bar member should be brought up on ethical charges if they knew of Greer's malfeasance and did nothing and are now honoring him....People please don't let this go...they are counting on this type of award to knock the wind out of people figuring what is the use in filing a complaint...

Posted by: Crystal Clear at May 16, 2005 2:45 PM

Opposing him at various times were Schiavo's family of birth, right-to-life groups, the Florida Legislature, the U.S. Congress and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, whose push to keep her alive nearly resulted in a last-minute constitutional showdown between the judiciary and executive branches of government.

The Schiavo case and the national outcry it engendered "has been an incredible journey," Greer said. "The one constant has been the support, spoken and unspoken, of my associates. I appreciate this award more than you will ever know."

That article has been edited so many times since the 6th of May, the date of that GALA Luncheon and dinner awards. The week of the Holocaust Memorial, I might add, I just wish I had the original print. How that one flew by I will never know. (Honestly, my computer was hacked last week, burned up to a crisp.) It had Wally Pope's braggart statements and Acid Head Felo's remarks about how they won against the "fight of freedom".

NOTE, who owns the largest newspaper down there.

This is one for the FBI to decide. No doubt Tom Delay is sorting this all out, and so is President Bush. And we all know there is a GOD that doesn't live in Florida.

Posted by: Shaggy at May 16, 2005 8:49 PM

This one went to TOM DELAY and my President and Congress.

"In Clearwater, we have been in the vortex of the greatest assault on judicial independence that most of us have seen in our lifetime," Pope said, announcing the new honor. Lawyers and elected leaders in the room gave Greer a 45-second standing ovation.

Greer did not speak publicly. Later, he thanked his colleagues.
"I've had better years," said Greer, a former Pinellas County commissioner who became a judge in 1992. "But this is very gratifying, for sure. These are the folks that know what the rule of law means. When they appreciate the fact that you've done a good job, it is humbling."

Baird, the first recipient of the award, ruled "Terri's Law" unconstitutional in 2003. The law had allowed Gov. Jeb Bush to force doctors to reinsert Schiavo's feeding tube. Baird's decision was upheld on appeal.

Greer, 63, also was honored Thursday by the West Pasco Bar Association. At that evening dinner, Greer was met by about a dozen protesters. There were no protesters at the Clearwater luncheon Friday; his honor had been kept secret, even from him.

"I hope that future generations and future lawyers will cite Schiavo," said George Felos, the attorney who represented Schiavo's husband, Michael. Felos attended Friday's luncheon.

"At least they'll see that in our generation, the courts stood up to tests against freedom," he said.

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Posted by: Shaggy at May 16, 2005 9:43 PM

Grab your pail and compare this to Mr. Felo's above remark's. Maybe it will be in his next book. There was a reason why the USA went to war against Hitler, wasn't there?

George Felos' book, "Litigation as Spiritual Practice" (Blue Dolphin Publishing, 2002) contains the following quotes.

About the Jews, George Felos wrote, "The Jewish people, long ago in their collective consciousness, agreed to play the role of the lamb whose slaughter was necessary to shock humanity into a new moral consciousness. Their sacrifice saved humanity at the brink of extinction and propelled us into a new age." (pg 240)

Felos further wrote, "If our minds can conceive of an uplifting Holocaust, can it be so diffucult to look another way at the slights and injuries and abuses we perceive were inflicted upon us?" (pg 240)

Good Night All, God Bless!

Posted by: Shaggy at May 16, 2005 10:06 PM

Good Grief, look at the word "diffucult". I didn't even see that until just now. Dear God, I have the creeps. I copied it from another site. Someone needs to look in that book and see how he spelled it. I am not buying it.

Gasp...I can't stand this.

God Bless America!

Posted by: Shaggy at May 16, 2005 10:15 PM

"was impressive" Yeah, I'm impressed. future...will cite Schiavo Uh huh, this will be cited for all time, only these lawyers will wish it wasn't. How long--I hope not long at all.

Posted by: mary et. al. at May 16, 2005 10:57 PM

CHECK THIS OUT..........They are going after JEB NOW. WHO LIVES ON TREASURE ISLAND??? CHECK EMPIRE JOURNAL! LOOK at Dennis Jones..."NEW ERA" STATEMENT....WHAT NEW ERA MR. JONES?????? Read that article........pay attention to the words.

Moderates dilute Gov. Bush's pull
As the 60-day session shows, the conservative ideology has lost some of its influence among state lawmakers.
By ADAM C. SMITH, Times Political Editor
Published May 8, 2005


TALLAHASSEE - There's an increasingly potent force in Florida government and it's closing the curtain on Jeb Bush's era of extraordinary power.

It's the moderate Republican. As the 2005 Legislature showed, the conflict between moderate and conservative Republicans is the underlying political battle in Florida today.

By the time state lawmakers concluded their annual 60-day session near midnight Friday, Republican state senators had driven home the new reality: Gov. Jeb Bush no longer calls the shots.

More than ever, independent-minded Republicans are willing to rein in the more conservative instincts of Bush and state House leaders.

What's more, the session's end effectively kicked off a new gubernatorial race lacking a clear ideological successor to Bush. All the Republican prospects to succeed him are widely viewed as moderates, even as they begin to move to the right for the coming primary battle.

"It'll be a new era," said state Sen. Dennis Jones, R-Treasure Island, noting that all the Democratic and Republican candidates for governor will be more pragmatic than Bush. The governor's diminished pull in the Legislature, Jones suggested, was largely Bush's doing by antagonizing lawmakers.

"In the first couple years when you have a new governor, I think everybody tries to make him look as good as you can to get out of the starting blocks," Jones said. "But you're only as good as your word, and as time goes on and you see promises broken and deals that don't come together, that marriage has to stop."

Bush, accustomed to getting his way in sessions past, saw lawmakers kill many of his top priorities, including his plans to scale back the class size amendment, expand school vouchers and further restrict lawsuits against businesses.

Lawmakers reduced his plans for sweeping changes to Medicaid to small pilot programs and watered down his and Senate President Tom Lee's growth management proposals.

Bush said Saturday he had "a pretty darn good session" despite some losses. "This year I had some big, bold initiatives," Bush told reporters at an education writers conference in St. Petersburg. "It doesn't bother me at all that they were not all embraced."

Still, nobody in Tallahassee underestimates the power of a popular governor with a brother in the White House. Nor is he expected to pull back from his ambitious policy goals as he prepares to exit office in early 2007.

Bush even showed a pragmatic side on growth management with a proposal to allow counties to raise optional sales and gasoline taxes without voter approval, which smacked of support for tax increases to vehemently opposed House Republicans. "He was swinging for the fences this year in a way a first-term governor would have been afraid to do," said lobbyist J.M. "Mac" Stipanovich.

At the same time, some of Bush's fellow Republicans in the Senate were swinging back in a way no one would have even tried a few years ago.

Senators in particular vented pent-up frustration with Bush. Lee at one point accused the governor of trying to "plagiarize" the Senate's growth management work and effectively told him to butt out.

A sitting governor's political capital inevitably shrinks near the end of his term. Getting controversial policies passed next year, Bush's last legislative session, will be even tougher because in an election year everything is viewed through an electoral prism. By next spring, the race to succeed Bush will dominate state politics.

Lee and House Speaker Allan Bense, R-Panama City, worked together more amicably than their predecessors. But that didn't prevent a near meltdown on the final day that left major issues hanging.

The state House remains overwhelmingly conservative, while the Senate has a core of Republicans willing to buck Bush and team with Democrats to block bills, from intervening in the Terri Schiavo case to scaling back the class size constitutional amendment to making it harder to sue businesses.

Sometimes, it might be more than a dozen Republicans bucking the governor and House, other times half that. But over and over, those independent-minded Republicans proved to be decisive in diluting or halting Bush's priorities.

The most consistent moderates are from the Tampa Bay area: Sens. Jones, Nancy Argenziano of Dunellon and Mike Bennett of Bradenton. Lee has emerged as the John McCain of Florida politics.

"You're seeing a trend in the Senate that we hope will come over to the House," Democratic leader Chris Smith said.

Senators tend to represent a broader spectrum of constituents than those in the House because their districts are larger. Bense, who found some of his priorities thwarted by fellow Republicans, seemed to appreciate the dynamics. "While I wish the Senate was as conservative as we are, if I were an ordinary citizen I might be heartened that there are some checks out there," he said.

Democrats found House leaders fairer and friendlier than before, though Smith said "the agenda was no less extreme."

While the House is unlikely to become more moderate, some observers see the executive branch moving that way after Bush.

All three prospective Republican candidates - Attorney General Charlie Crist, Chief Financial Officer Tom Gallagher and Lt. Gov. Toni Jennings - are viewed as less ideologically conservative than Bush. Both announced Democrats, state Sen. Rod Smith of Alachua and U.S. Rep. Jim Davis of Tampa, are widely viewed as centrists.

"Bushism went to its extreme and now you're beginning to see it unravel," said Jade Moore, executive director of the Pinellas Classroom Teachers Association and a staunch Bush critic. "Every person that's running for governor is an improvement times two over the current governor."

Others say it's simply impossible to compare Bush to normal politicians.

"Jeb Bush is quite different probably from any governor we'll have in a long time. No. 1, because his name is Bush," said former Secretary of State Jim Smith, a Republican.

"He does have a very conservative approach to government and well-reasoned arguments, and he's been able to advance an agenda. But every time you have a new governor you'll see a different approach, and a different agenda," Smith said.

Bush made it clear Saturday that he's not done. "I'm not going to step back," Bush said. "As governor I have a duty to lead. I'm not going to put it in cruise control."

Adam C. Smith can be reached at 727 893-8241 or adam@sptimes.com

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Mess with President Bush's brother and see what happens, Mr. Jones and your "NEW ERA" and Everette Rice owned Island.

No doubt in my mind the DOJ and the FBI is watching this now.

FYI Wally Pope is from the law firm that fought the state of florida against the murder of Lisa McPhersen. The case Bernie McCabe dropped. The one were JEB BUSH fired the Medical Exaimner.

Posted by: Shaggy at May 16, 2005 11:08 PM


Here's the link. They are trying to make Jeb look like he has no power. Where have I seen that written before.

I hope you all get on your phones and call Tom Delay and President Bush first thing in the am. I also hope you don't bother with Senator King, he is the one that said, "Terri's death was over due". I don't trust any of those lawmakers other than Jeb Bush. He should have called in the National Guard, I agree. Lets just sit back and see what happens next, but call in the morning.

Try to have a nice night. I need a BP pill.


Posted by: Shaggy at May 16, 2005 11:15 PM

The words of Felos proved what I always believed- that Terri was sacrificed so that those who are pushing for euthanasia on demand can use the judiciary for their ill-will.

I feel disgust to see George Greer getting awards over his handling of the Schindler vs. Schiavo case. There was a gross miscarriage of justice and these lawyers are only concerned about their hip pockets.

Over the past few weeks I have been thinking very much along the same lines as Crystal Clear, especially with regard to the area of guardianship abuse.

The manner in which Greer has handled the Schindler vs. Schiavo case means that guardians in Florida have an unprecedented power to end the life of someone who might not in fact want to have life ended in that way. What has really happened here is that the guardians now have the full protection of the legal system to continue their rorting.

Yes, the correct word here is "rort". If anyone has not as yet studied the guardianship issue, especially the problems in Pinellas county Florida, I suggest that you begin to read everything that you can on the subject.

Posted by: Maggie4life at May 17, 2005 3:45 AM

Someone, who is now banned, suggested in three different comments (which we deleted) that Blogsforterri is planting cookies on computers and implied this caused him/her to be hacked. The only software running on this site that uses cookes is MovableType and Typepad.

Posted by: tim at May 18, 2005 1:43 AM