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April 1, 2005

Media Denied Access to Schiavo DCF Records

Topics: News

The bizare behavior and actions of Judge Greer just keep happening. Is it time to bring in the F.B.I.? What is needed to trigger a Federal investigation?

- AP via Wired News
CLEARWATER, Fla. (AP) -- Summaries of state Department of Children & Families investigations into the treatment Terri Schiavo cannot be released to the media, a judge ruled Friday.

Ruling the day after Schiavo died, Circuit Judge George Greer denied a request from the St. Petersburg Times to obtain summaries of dozens of investigations into complaints that Schiavo was being mistreated. None of the allegations were substantiated. More ...

cross posted at Hyscience

Posted by richard at April 1, 2005 2:55 PM


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What?? His lawyer said the fractures were from years of immobility? The fractures showed up when she first collapsed!!!! What in the...?

Posted by: Foug at April 1, 2005 3:15 PM

"...Michael Schiavo has denied harming his wife and his lawyer said bone fractures resulted from osteoporosis caused by the woman's years of immobility and complications of her medication."

Do I understand michael's "lawyer" correctly???

The bone fractures resulted from osteoporosis caused by years of immobility and medication complications?

Did not michael confine her to a Hospice prison cell and stop the therapy which would have kept her bones mobile? He even ensured she had a broken wheelchair. And medication? What medication? For some reason, I thought michael prohibited any medications to be given to Terri.

Boy, now that he has finally completed the court-ordered execution, he has more new lies spewing from his forked tongue daily. I guess now that everyone knows Terri wasn't bulemic, they have to find other ways to dissect her character and ensure they aren't "guilty" for her bone fractures.

There is no two ways about it, george feel-less is a blight on HUMANity. He has DEMONstrated his lack of ethics; I can't wait until TRUTH comes out and greer, feel-less, and shitavo are held accountable for their actions.

I'd be happy with them having to repay the money they mis-appropriated; including the money they bilked Medicaid for. Maybe at a slightly elevated interest rate--say 22% (department store average) compounded daily for 10 years.....

Posted by: Tress at April 1, 2005 3:18 PM

What's new? Bringing in the FBI sounds good. What we need is someone to come forward who has information that could really break this "case" open. I'm sure there are people out there. I pray that they have courage and speak up. Where is Michael now that Terri has died?

Posted by: sherry at April 1, 2005 3:23 PM

Terri supporters,
Please be sure to vote to impeach Greer.
http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html

Posted by: sherry at April 1, 2005 3:25 PM

Pardon me, I got my dates mixed up regarding the bone scan- it was taken a year after the collapse. Still, is it possible to have such substantial damage in one year due to osteoperosis from immobility within a year's time?

Posted by: Foug at April 1, 2005 3:27 PM

This is so stupid! This should NEVER have gone this far! [etc ]

Posted by: LauraB at April 1, 2005 3:28 PM

What happened with Terri's wheelchair? I would like to see it donated to an organization where it would be appreciated. I emailed a FL rep from Joni & Friends- Wheels for the world. It could be fixed (Michael never fixed it). MS would probably melt it down like he did to Terri's wedding ring

Posted by: sherry at April 1, 2005 3:31 PM

Judge Greer is TRULY the Swamp Judge.

I say we contact Dateline NBC to do an investigation into the Judidical ordered Homicide of Terri.

Posted by: ElizabethV at April 1, 2005 3:40 PM

The "Agency" does not want these released,
be patient.Ongoing investigation.Hopefully
scrutinizing every nuance of "Body Language"
when questioning,to notice if the eyes,etc..
betray the lies.This should not be allowed
to become just a "tempest in a teapot" as
some have predicted.This must lead to real
change for our future.For the "Terri's"

Posted by: lynaqua at April 1, 2005 3:48 PM

Schindler Coroner Nixed from Terri Autopsy

Dr. Cyril H. Wecht, the well-known forensic pathologist and coroner of Allegheny County, Pa., told listeners of a morning radio show that he was denied permission to observe Terri Schiavo's autopsy, despite the wishes of her parents.

A medical examiner in Pinellas County, Florida, is conducting an autopsy that could help determine what Schiavo's state of consciousness was and whether she was abused by her husband, as the Schindlers allege.

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Wecht, appearing on the syndicated America's Morning Show with Quinn and Rose, based in Pittsburgh, said that an investigator working for the Schindler's law firm had called him on Thursday to see whether he would be agreeable to observing the autopsy.

Dr. Wecht told Quinn and Rose he was certainly be agreeable to that, but that several hours later he received word that the medical examiner had declined to give him permission.

Dr. Wecht told the morning hosts that he considered this a mistake, according to Rose Somma Tennent. "He said that, if this were in [his] office, [he] would have said sure - not just because of professional courtesy, but because of the controversy sourrounding this case," Somma Tennet said.

Calls made during the show to the medical examiner's office were not returned.

The results from the autopsy are expected in a few weeks.

From NewsMax : http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/4/1/160235.shtml

Posted by: Dave_MN at April 1, 2005 4:13 PM

lynaqua is right about being patient.

The article said: "The agency did not want the records released, saying it would hamper an ongoing investigation."

Hopefully, the ongoing investigation is truly ongoing.

Posted by: Tom Spence at April 1, 2005 4:15 PM

Please forgive me for the multiple pings! I was getting an error message on my end, so I re-did it a couple times.

I'm really sorry about this.

Posted by: ticklebug at April 1, 2005 4:18 PM

HOW DARE THEY!

We as the public have a right to know what happened concerning this matter! It is as much our business as it is the people involved directly.

Posted by: Matthew6:5 at April 1, 2005 4:21 PM

Sherry

I didn't hear about MS melting Terri's wedding ring! OMG, is that true? :(

Posted by: Matthew6:5 at April 1, 2005 4:25 PM

Oh great, now there's going to be a fire of disbelief if the autopsy comes out clean... What a surprise. And yes, Michael melted down Terri's engagement and wedding bands.

Posted by: Foug at April 1, 2005 4:29 PM

This whole sorry state of affairs has made me understand in great detail how collusion works and how Hitler could come to power and rule the way he did. I could never understand how so many people stood silent, but now I know better, it is not the silence, it is the collusion of those in power that makes idiots of the silent and victims of the vocal.

Yes Matthew6:5, he did melt the rings!! Among other things, he had a girlfriend (Cindy) 1-1/2 years after Terri's collapse and she had a restraining order put on him eventually. So while he was claiming the million dollar settlement, he already had a girlfriend. Imagine the plight Terri, the last person she saw as she laboured and passed away was the face of the guy who was starving her....but...all is well with Terri now, she opened her eyes to the sweet face of Jesus and they are celebrating in heaven now.

Posted by: sujata at April 1, 2005 4:38 PM

listen to hannity.com he is discussing this very issue now!!

Posted by: sujata at April 1, 2005 4:42 PM


RE: GREER INCOMPETENCE:

Dear Mr. Bush: Claudia Iyr R.N. cared for Terri 18 months and signed an affidavit that she was speaking words and swallowing liquids by mouth. She said that when she went to court to testify Judge Greer treated her with contempt and she also said during the proceedings Greer said to Felos on a personal note "What do you want to do this weekend"?. While not illegal, this is innappropriate behavior and to me signals we should take a closer look at him. Right now in the media, the GOP is being blamed for 'stepping in' and the GOP is at risk of losing popularity. Please conduct an investigation into Judge Greer. So, far over 33,000 people have signed a petition to have Judge Greer impeached. The petition can be viewed at: http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html

Posted by: Anna_Nordin at April 1, 2005 5:00 PM

Personally, I don't know if I WANT the media to have access to the DCF records. The way the media distorts everything, they may only help Schiavo and Felos, and turn MORE people against the Schindlers.

But the whole thing about the Forensic Pathologist being denied access to the autopsy is disheartening. Sigh...what else is new? The only way anything gets approved in this case is if it has the name of Schaivo, Felos, or Greer on it.

Posted by: JIHC at April 1, 2005 5:31 PM

Terri's wedding ring was mentioned in the petition to impeach the "swamp judge".
see link, item #3
http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html

As for the autopsy, I don't see why the ME didn't let another coroner observe.
The stink just keeps getting stronger.
Now I'm having bad feelings about the ME.

Read more info about the autopsy:
"Good and Bad Autopsy News"
http://www.titleofliberty.typepad.com
If they do the Xrays like it says that sounds like good news. As far as the extent of her brain damage, I don't think that is going to make or break the case. I hear a radiologist on Rush Limb. today say that if a part of the brain is damaged, another part of it can take over. This can happen say after brain surgery. What I would like to see if they can prove that she had been abused so they can throw MS in the slammer and throw the key into the ocean.

I pray that the Fed move in and bring swift justice.

Posted by: sherry at April 1, 2005 5:36 PM

At the risk of sounding naive... I think we shoudl remember that the DCF was the only agency that had any interest in helping Terri. If they don't want the records released to media (MSM), then I would take that as a good sign. Of course, Greer has his own motives behind wanting those records kept secret. I know it feels icky to be on the same side of any issue as that dirtbag, but I think this is for the best.

Posted by: Teri J at April 1, 2005 5:45 PM

Yahoo news (AP) just reported that the autopsy is done, but that the results of the autopsy might not be released for several weeks. Is that the normal time frame?

Posted by: sherry at April 1, 2005 5:48 PM

As far as I've read anywhere it should be. They take the brain, put it in a solution and allow it to solidify which takes about two weeks. Then they disect different parts and examine them further.
There's a video on the MSN video page that talks about it some ("What an autopsy reveals"), although it only relates to the brain exam part of it, not any other injuries.

Posted by: Vanessa at April 1, 2005 6:16 PM

As I just posted on my blog, I have a really hard time believing a deeply thorough autopsy could be completed in half a day. He had already cleared the body for release by early evening on the day she died.

As for the DCF records being released, they should not be released IMHO. For one thing, they cannot legally be released to the public, and for another thing the investigation is still ongoing. Would you really want every allegation brought to the DCF in every case, proven or not, to be released to the media? That would cause a lot of problems on many levels.

Posted by: purple_kangaroo_Angela at April 1, 2005 6:30 PM

It's not uncommon for investigative results not to be released to the public. I agree that the media may do more harm than good in this case. Of course I don't know about the specific papers, but this may be something prudent.

Posted by: Nettie at April 1, 2005 6:30 PM

Michael Brown, former News Reporter and current web master for Spirit Daily (www.spiritdaily.com) did a fantastic article about the spirit of darkness which hovers over Pinellas Florida. "IS THERE A MYSTERIOUS DARK FORCE THAT HOVERS OVER THAT SPOT CALLED PINELLAS?" he asks.

http://www.spiritdaily.com/schiavocult.htm

The Church of Scientology has a strong hold in that part of Florida. Scientology abhors the disabled. LRonHubbard is the founder of Scientology. The following quote is from Michael Brown's editorial:

"Said Hubbard's son in an interview: "I believed in Satanism. There was no other religion in the house! Scientology and black magic. What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it's stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology --and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works. Also, you've got to realize that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan."

So, LRonHubbard was "one with Satan". He created a religion with it's "mecca" in Clearwater. The ME who will perform the autopsy is part of the same government that brought such stellar individuals as BTK greer; Sixth Circuit Court Judge Mark I. Shames; Attorney General Charlie Crist; Deborah Bushnell; Rep. Gus Bilikaris; Sheriff Everett Rice; and the list goes on...

I have no doubt Terri's autopsy will "prove" that she was "PVS". I have no doubt that Terri's autopsy will "prove" that Michael didn't harm her. I have no doubt that Terri's autopsy will "prove" she was "brain dead" and felt nothing before she "passed peacefully". I have no doubt that the ME is ethical and unbiased--just like greer. Oh yeah, although I have no doubt of the "proof" mentioned above, I also have no doubt that they will be lies. Lies from those influenced by the Prince of Lies himself.

Posted by: Tress at April 1, 2005 6:34 PM

Tress, all things that are hidden in darkness will be revealed. God is not unaware of all the dirty secrets, and I believe He will expose and judge them all in His timing.

Take a look here :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1370155/posts

"He reminded me of a word Chuck gave about Florida a few months ago. Chuck prophesied, "A strategy will be uncovered out of Florida that will be very detrimental to our land . . . a strategy that will try to mature to stop the plan for this nation out of Florida, to bring confusion in this land." Chuck also told me yesterday that when he gave this word, he saw a death structure in Florida that would become an issue before the nation – that death would try to reign from there."

Two things hit me hard as I read this :
1) This (prophetic) word was given a few months ago.
2) In it is mentioned a "death structure". Hmmmm ... wonder what that could be?

God is on top of it. There are several prayer directives at that web site (original on www.dutchsheets.org) ... I would suggest a look-see there.

Dave

Posted by: Dave_MN at April 1, 2005 7:05 PM

I can see wisdom in not releasing the DCF files if in fact there is an on going investigation. That decision would be no different in any investigative office. I am still sceptical about DCF but you never know.

This business about this coroner not being allowed in during the autopsy deffinately has me concerned.

The garbage spewing from Felos just never ceases though. It is impossible for Terri to have those breaks from being imobile. The first time she was seen by a Orthopeadic surgeon was only months after she collapsed. Then within the year she had the bone scan. She was still recieving therapy at that time.

If there are no competent people in agencies that could solve the crimes involved here then we all need to be very fearful!

Posted by: imdll at April 1, 2005 7:27 PM

At this point in time I think that it is better not to get heated about not having access to the investigation records.

I would prefer that the media are not allowed to behave like ghouls and create more of a circus situation than already exists.

George Felos is not a medical person and everytime he opens that slimy slithery mouth of his, he says something totally absurd. This latest reply for him will be something that will get attention on my own blog because I am continuing to look at the inconsistency and twisted logic in the public statements of Felos and the SChiavo family. At present I am putting together something that relates to the Larry King interview in 2003. This is only the beginning for me to look at every single utterance and how those utterances have become either incriminating or just totally diabolical.

It is not normal for a young woman of just 25 or 26 to have osteoporosis. Terri did not have the necessary bone density scan which is the proper indicator of whether or not her bones were showing signs of the precursor to osteoporosis. The MRI proved that she had inflammation throughout her body. The doctor who examined the result, Dr. Walker, virtually ruled out osteoporosis. He is the first to mention the possibility that her injuries were a result of attempted strangulation.

George Felos, by opening his mouth and making that particular statement has incriminated himself and Michael Schiavo with regards to what they know about the reason that Terri ended up with a head injury. It is obvious that he is trying to plant in the mind of the feeble-minded that the bone scan was taken at a much later date than 1991. His implication here is that he is trying to spin this to indict Terri as a bulimic. The feeble-minded who have not bothered to investigate what really happened will no doubt accept every word that this viper states.

I was hoping that Dr. Thogmartin would ensure the independence of the Office of Medical Examiner by allowing observers to the autopsy. By refusing to allow the Schindlers to have a representative present he has done a disservice to everyone involved. He has in fact compromised the Office of Medical Examiner in Pinellas County.

Do not give up on this situation. We all have work to be done. There are a lot of discussions that must happen and we must be able to clearly direct our wishes so that no one will ever be allowed to do what has happened to Theresa Schindler.

Posted by: Maggie4life at April 1, 2005 8:17 PM

I believe Felos and/or the Schiavos will hang themselves by their comments. He sounded absurd during the interview he gave after she died.

I had heard on the radio this morning that Dr. Cyril Wecht asked to be present during the autopsy and was refused. I faxed a letter to him requesting him to fulfill his office's mission statement ..."utmost objectivity". If it is only a cursory autopsy then I guess objectivity and thoroughness go right out the window.

Posted by: I hope at April 1, 2005 8:42 PM

I have personally contacted the AP and in contact to get the facts straight about the bone scan. I have a copy of the actual medical record so I am working to get this lie straightened out.

I am giving the AP all the websites that have court documents to counter their claims.

Do not worry yet. If we stand up united, counter Felos and get the truth to the media, justice will eventually prevail.

Posted by: Julie at April 1, 2005 9:23 PM

I can't believe Cyril Wecht, one of the top forensic pathologists in the country, notwithstanding his JFK assassination silliness, would not be allowed in.

You know nothing is going to be proven with the autopsy. It's not going to answer any questions we have about Terri's condition either at the time of death (other than starvation) or at the time she became brain-damaged.

Michael and company know this.

It wouldn't surprise me if Terri was in fact bulimic, it being very common among women her age obsessed with their weight, but the osteoporosis claim is a bunch of nonsense, like almost everything else that has come out of the Michael Schiavo team. Few people at that age have that, even if they're bulimic, and certainly they wouldn't have all of the injuries Terri supposedly had.

I smell a rat, but it's going to take some skilled writer or researcher, not amateur bloggers, to get to the truth.

Posted by: Susan Nunes at April 1, 2005 10:18 PM

The so called bulimia however was known to no one under the sky except michael, not even Terri's family doctor.

And about her cardiac arrest, are they talking about the same heart that carried Terri through the next 15 years, through a 2 day, then a 6 day and finally a 14 day starvation before giving up? Sounds like a healthy heart to me.

Terri, my heart grieves for you.

Posted by: sujata at April 1, 2005 11:05 PM

I heard felos say on the Sean Hannity show that Terri did not die of starvation. He must have been hallucinating, given he also found her death peaceful.

Posted by: sujata at April 1, 2005 11:07 PM

Sujata,

I wonder if he has been onto the magic mushrooms (sorry this is meant to be sarcastic).

To Susan Nunnes, the reason that I do not accept the bulimia argument is that it provides a covenient out to Michael S. His wife had collapsed at home under mysterious circumstances. He goes to the hospital where the doctors start asking him a series of questions. They draw blood and she has a low blood potassium, BUT, she did not have a heart attack, a cardiac infarct as claimed by Michael Schiavo. The medical record showed that the blood gases were normal. They notice the low potassium level and they question Michael about his wife's eating habits. Only he knows what really happened when she collapsed. However, the questioning has given him a convenient means of taking the pressure off himself to explain how his wife collapsed. There are further tests, and one of those tests confirms that Terri has an enteric infection, probably guardia because she was treated with FLAGYL.

If you have ever had a run with guardia, and I have had it twice, you will know about the varying symptoms of this stomach upset. There are stomach cramps, one feels nauseous, does not feel like eating, and there is vomiting, as well as diahorrea. It is a very unpleasant condition, and it takes time for one's stomach to stop hurting afterwards. When treated with FLAGYL after it has been identified it goes rapidly.

In the transcript of an interview with Larry King in 2003 Michael Schiavo admitted that Terri used to eat and eat in his presence. This does not indicate bulimia at all. He tried to cover his tracks with the comment that it is a secret disorder. However, doctors have the skills to detect whether this is a possibility by asking certain questions about diet.

The idea that Terri might have had bulimia is one that is very convenient for Michael Schiavo because it places the blame on Terri for her collapse and it takes the blame away from his aggressive abusive behaviour towards her. It is convenient because, as your own comment states, it is not uncommon for a young woman of Terri's age to be diet concious. That idea is planted firmly in the minds of those who have not gone that extra step of checking the medical records carefully.

I do not believe that Terri had bulimia. Her friends have not mentioned that she displayed any of the odd behaviour patterns of that disease, and not one of them mentioned her going off to the toilet to vomit up her food when she was in their company. That is an idea that has been planted by Michael Schiavo to cover his own butt.

What I think is more likely is that Terri was very ill and her potassium was depleted because of the stomach infection. I think that the treatment with Flagyl is a key to unravelling the culpability of Michael Schiavo.

Also, and this has escaped many people, Terri did not show signs of brain damage until one month after her collapse. Up until the third CT scan her brain there was no abnormality present. Now this point has been raised on CODEBLUEBLOG that there is a possibility that she was injured whilst in the hospital. We are not looking at a 72 hour time frame for the abnormality to show up, it is in fact one month.

Now, I have been reading through the transcripts of some of the interviews and guess what, on Larry King in 2003 Michael Schiavo admitted that Terri first opened her eyes one month after the collapse. First of all that is very slow for someone who allegedly had a heart attack, and second, that raises the question as to whether Michael was alone with Terri at the time she opened her eyes. Did this event happen before or after the abnormal CT scan?

This is food for thought. The twists and turns are continuing.

Posted by: Maggie4life at April 1, 2005 11:49 PM

Maggie4Life:
I was wondering the same thing as I saw her she was on the Wheelchair, being outside looking at the Lake while Micheal was beside her, and I was confused, to the fact it was AFTER the Collapse or DURING that time. People say it was ONE Month that she is in the Wheel chair, and I can see she can move her head and talk perfectly. But it was rather suspsicious that she all of the sudden, went into Brain Damage and could not move at all. And the fact that Micheal sued for Malpratice Suit, do you really think Micheal did something to her according to the Bone Scan that shows that she was strangled? or the Hospitals had abused her in there? But after dissecting the whole thing, from the first day she collapsed, and she was perfectly fine and somewhat paralyzed, but am very aware, moving her head and talking....then all of the sudden she is in what they call PVS or Brain Damage. Why the Need for Malpratice Suit? Which was awarded $1.2 Million Dollars Medical Trust awarded by the Jury in 1992 to Terri, then Micheal started claiming that Terri has a death wish? He did not say anything between 1990 to 1992, but during the Award, he started to make statements that Terri did not want to be put this way. And all the cover ups, and searched the Right People that would decide in his favour such as Judge Greer, Felos, etc...etc...It is not concidence, but a well planned sinister Plan. She was "fine" after the Collapse, then one month later she is technically "gone" which led me to believe something happened either in the Hospital Room or during her Collapse.

Now this I heard on the News that it was Micheal and Felos who asked Judge Greer to seal the documents and asked DCF not to release the records to the Public. But failed to explain that the Bone Scan and other sealed documents has to be released according to the Freedom and Privacy Act, they have no choice that eventually it will have to be released to the Public. I can see they "covered up" over 15 years period with the help of Judge Greer, Felos, and hopefully not the Medical Examiner. Is the ME allowed to lie under oath? Who knows? All of them are Friends who plays "Golf". Something is not right during that time of Collapse and then the paralysis, then the Medical Trust going to Micheal which he very much misused going to the Lawyer and among his so called "Friend" Judge Greer and other people to manipulate the records.

I think a Criminal Investigation is needed. Period.

Posted by: momforGod at April 2, 2005 12:35 AM

Thank you guys for sharing all this information. This scary stuff-but not all that surprising. Regardless, I know there is work to be done-laws to be changed, onward and upward-that is my thought.

I really never thought I would say this-I do not like MS any more than the rest of you do. I think something is very wrong here and I firmly believe that his camp could quite possibly be behind all the threats and hate mail surfacing around here. However........I am not sure that passing time on worrying about what happens to MS is going to get us anywhere. He is very well connected. Doesn't he work for as a nurse for the Sherriff-thus the connections with the coroner? We already know the problems with the judge. If anything pans out against him it will be a miracle. The honest to gooness truth of the matter-after I stopped being so angry and really started to think about it is that the truth probably died with Terri.

The focus is going to have to be getting rid of the judges-changing laws so this NEVER, NEVER, NEVER happens again. Federal judges are elected for life-why? Because it has been since the beginning? I do not know I am asking. That needs to be changed. Whoever thought that was a good idea did not realize how corrupt even the best of men can become when given too much power. It seems to me that at this time in history judges have more power than even the president-who is only allowed to serve 2 terms so why I ask is a federal judge given a lifetime appointment and what can be done to change that. I really need an answer if someone has one.

Posted by: alwayschooselife at April 2, 2005 12:41 AM

I also wanted to add I have little knowledge about Eating Disorder in School. I know for a fact that Anorexia, NOT Bulimia that could have brittle bones, it was Anorexia. But it could cause Calicum in put which is very low because they keep on starving and throwing up, but the thing is the Brittle Bones does not happen right away. Osterposis, I know I heard will happen in 10 years, not in One Month! I broke my Elbow because I have brittle bones, because I stopped drinking Milk and Calcium Vitamins. Anorexia can cause teeth decay, Hair Loss, Skin Discoloration, sometimes brittle bones due to lack of Calcium, but very rare of having Osterposis, but that has to happen in 10 years, not just one month. Bulimia, on other hand causes almost the same symptoms, but has a throat espogaus burn, due to acids from the Stomach of frequent vomiting. It can cause Blood and Throat Cancer. It is nasty. Their Eyes can I don't know what the word is "pulipate"? which is the narrowing of the pupil. Now all the Doctors does not see all those symptoms such as Hair Loss, teeth, or throat burn or Blood Loss, etc...etc..

The Irony in all of this is surprising that Micheal can differ Bulimia from Anorexia. How did he know that in spite Bulimia is the frequent trips to the Toilets which Micheal stated she ate "fine" on Larry King Live in 2003? Both Eating Disorders do in fact cause Energy loss, and Lethargic in their Bodies which can cause Collapse. That is something Micheal only knows of and just labelled Bulimia to Terri, because he knows well enough that it causes Energy Loss due to lack of Food. The Fact that her Best Friends testified that they did not see any of this...but did hear that Terri was asking for a Divorce from Micheal BEFORE the Collapse. If it was Osterposis, how did the Pelvis break? Legs? Arms? Neck? Osterposis can happen in only one area or over all breakage, but has to happen over the period of 10 years. I know this, because I hear the Commercial for Osterposis, that the Age 45, she said she wants to take it in prevention of Osterposis, that the Doctors say it could happen at Age 50 or 55. Again, 10 period Span for it to take place, not ONE Month. I think this is just something Felos and Micheal is throwing in the Air, just like they threw Bulimia in the Claim. What's next? Oh yea, what is the need for Cremation for? That is something I wanted to know. Did Terri ask for Cremation? Is that her other Wish? The irony is that Micheal never said it was Terri's Wish, but his own. :(

Praying for Terri to get the Justice she deserve and it shall prevail and God will make those who caused killings, pain and the suffereing Pay a higher Price for their Sins. It is known that the Schindlers are asking for Forgiveness of others who does not know what they are commiting sins for. That is something I have to learn forgiving, which is the hardest thing to do. I have learned alot from the Schindlers and Terri, it taught me about Life, Forgiveness, Prayers, and God/Jesus. Praise the Lord for the good widsom words and we have to keep the Faith and Hope in God and Jesus Christ. That is what Terri would have wanted and that also Justice served on Micheal for the sins he had done. God specifically said in the Bible, that killing of another person will not be tolerated. Period.

We will have a good turn out and the Faith is High and let's keep that Faith in honor of Terri, and Terri is one of many that represents the Life. She told her Best Friends: "Where there's Life, There is Hope." I have learned so much from this. Thank you.

Posted by: momforGod at April 2, 2005 12:58 AM

I really feel sorry for you people. You see I work with the mentally retarded-even under the best of care-which is what I provide, osteoporosis just happens with the mentally retarded,or severely brain damaged if you prefer-There's no abuse.It seems you people like to bathe yourselves in ignorance-How much pain do you think Terri was in just being brain damaged? I watch this daily in my job-I do my best giving them comfort and treat my clients with dignity and respect.Fact is-their bodies break down over time-look at the x-rays of Terri's brain scan-Isn't it obvious??No amount of therapy will correct it.I do feel sympathy for the Schindler's-They definitely have an inability to accept the facts that Terri couldn't recover and Michael tried to do what was best. It's a real shame people feel the need to demonize him while clinging to a bible-not very christian. Bottom line is God knows ALL of their hearts and what they ALL felt inside-He'll take care of it. It's not for the masses to judge-none of us walk so straight and narrow that we have the right to judge so harshly.Death threats?? Ranks right up there with bombing abortion clinics. Kill a person if they don't agree with you over something that is none of your business in the first place. Isn't that ALSO murder??It's sad to think so many people don't have lives enough of their own other than to do such things. It's sad really.People need to realize they don't have so much control-you can only be responsible for your own actions. Did anyone ever consider that the doctor who saved Terri's life in the first place-STOLE her from God in the first place? And that maybe there are consequences for for bringing back a dead woman? At any rate-she's at home now-with her God and you also should be happy for her-no more pain, no more suffering, no matter if you liked the way it went down. Honestly, I agree with Jack Kevorkian-That'll probably upset your mind set-but I've heard repeatedly.. "you wouldn't starve a dog

Posted by: joy at April 6, 2005 10:02 AM

(cont) ....You wouldn't starve a dog like this" My darlings-If my dog was dragging it's limbs, severely brain damaged and had to be fed via a feeding tube-I would euthanise him/her...because it's humane, because it suffers, because whereas I love my animals so very dearly and they love me equally for hanging on so long, that I feel the kindest thing to do is to be appreciative and grateful for the time they gave me and give them back to God. Funny how this country sees nothing wrong with putting down an animal (which i value as highly as people sometimes more so) but let a person agree with Jack Kevorkian and you stare at them as if they were the devil himself. But what can you expect from a country that had rights for abused animals before they installed rights for abused children? The arguments are ambiguous but let's put first things first-our children for example-before we start casting stones at a man who truly loved his wife and was giving her back to God as per HER wants and needs. Walk a mile in his footsteps before you judge him harshly-one day you may be standing in his shoes.It's a shame her family wasted so much time, effort and energy hating Michael for what was destined (possibly by God) to happen. God knows all of our hearts-and what we mean, and who we are and all of these things. Why be so afraid of death? Why be so hateful to one another?Why not let her go and give her peace? She's in the best hands possible at this point.Go hug your kids or call your parents or watch your nephews play baseball-take the time that God gave you with the people you love-because bottom line is-life is too short to post hate sites on the net with angry words and overly judgemental thoughts for people you don't know-Terri's 15 years of suffering was enough.Stop this insanity-figure out what love means and cover you loved ones with it so you have no regrets if you should lose them.It's important.

Posted by: joy at April 6, 2005 10:18 AM

Governments should never be involved in these kinds of matters-the Government doesn't know the people -these are personal, private family issues that should be resolved by living wills or by a panel of unbiased doctors along with the family for what the person is known to want and what's in the best interest of the person in question , in the case of no living will. I really feel Michael searched his soul and did what he felt was the right thing to do beings we have no right to euthanise a suffering human being-this is simply the way it went down-but with no cerebral cortex and morphine I'm sure that she died just like he said,...peacefully, with him at her side, holding her. The world is not simply black and white-there is in fact alot of gray, not to mention other colors. God in his Heaven knows the differences and he loves us all anyway. Keep that in mind before you insult, threaten and demonize one of his creations (Michael)because in your quests to vex his soul-you may lose your own instead.

Posted by: joy at April 6, 2005 10:34 AM

oh...and just in case you wondered-yes, I work with the mentally retarded and have these view points. But I respect EITHER side. Whether you let them go back to God or you let them die in a home (which is where alot of these people end up and are mostly forgotten about) I will go into work on my every scheduled work day, work overtime-go in on my day off to take special care for these children and adults because they deserve that. I've grown attached to every client I've cared for and I cry when they do go home to God. But I recognize what I would do from what another does and respect what their consciences tell them they must do.Why is it when the shoe is on the other foot-they can't get the same respect without a media circus,or on line blogs, or any of this nonsense just because in what's in their mind & heart isn't exactly what you would do? Careful what you submit-you may think no one is watching but God sees all and there's an accounting for your actions as well. Think about that.

Posted by: joy at April 6, 2005 10:46 AM