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April 20, 2005

Italian Court Keeps Girl's Feeding Tube in Place

Topics: International

In Italy, the Supreme Judges made the right decision:

Italy's Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a man's appeal to remove a feeding tube keeping his daughter alive, weeks after a bitter row over brain-damaged Terri Schiavo divided the United States.

The Italian court confirmed an earlier ruling that called feeding Eluana Englaro, in a vegetative state following a 1992 car crash, a "necessary act."

It said a decision to remove the tube required "valuations of life and death that are rooted in concepts of an ethical or religious nature, which are extrajudicial," and said that the issue was also outside the powers of Englaro's father.


Posted by tim at April 20, 2005 2:53 PM

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Bingo, these are extrajudicial. Courts are in no way, shape or form competent to handle these questions.

Posted by: mary et. al. at April 20, 2005 5:50 PM

USA Supreme Court take note of this Italian decision. It shows that there is justice to be found in Italy.

Posted by: Maggie4life at April 21, 2005 2:29 AM

Praise the Lord...First we heard of a case in South American , now in Europe...With a few more foriegn "protect life" legal decisions like this and when the American Judges do their international judicial reseach( as stated by Justist Kennedy), these will be the cases they will cite. Finally a way to correct the American Courts..Allelulia!!!!.G-d does work in wonderous ways.

Posted by: JoJoFox at April 21, 2005 6:39 AM

Off the subject, but it would appear that Delay caused some serious upset among satan's congregation judging from their efforts to rub him out. Could he pose some kind of a threat to him. I'm going to start praying for divine protection for him, but it would greatly behoove us to publicly stand by him.

I wrote the Franciscans and Crystal Clear and got no response. If we can't do this in a newspaper, can we do something on the net????

Posted by: mary et. al. at April 21, 2005 7:32 AM

Mary, I emailed you some info.

Posted by: kay at April 21, 2005 7:48 AM

When the Terri Schiavo case was still in Court and the Media was misrepresenting the issues all over the place causing mass confusion and biased rhetoric....I kept trying to remember a word that meant it went beyond the Florida Judges means and ruling...for the entire time the word evaded me...but I knew there was a term used to refer to laws that go beyond the regular judicial jurisdictions....and then I saw the letter above about the Italian court and in its statement there was that word .......jumped right off the page....."EXTRAJUDICIAL" Know I feel foolish...right in front of me the whole time...However bravo, bravo for the Italian court in its decision. And for understanding....that a feeding tube is a neccisity and that no one should have the right to remove or refuse the very basic requirements of food and water....As in Terri's Case...It is still incredulous to me that these things are able to happen and that those who are appointed to protect our rights....Judges, Agencies, Magistrates can overwhelmingly refuse a person food and water...time and time agian and when the inevitable occurs...Death.! React with a poise of compassion and concern as witness in the Felos interview shortly after Terris death...In his agenda to further the legalization of Euthansia thru the state laws so subtly...and yet aggressively hoping to bring onside a very liberal media and a country divided and confused on the issues...afterall no one wants to address dying when their still young...but somehow I believe that much to these death advocates dissappointment the opposite has happened ..even with all the mistruths, the confusion the rhetoric...the analysis...that if any thing people now are asking questions..for example how many times did we here rhetoric about living wills...implications that if Terri Schindler-Schiavo had made a living will ....things might have been different...now many legal authorities are saying thats just not true in every case and a conflict in the courts or a judges ruling can still disregard living will validity consider Mae in the Georgia case......HMMMMM now that has got some people thinking...but some serious cash was generated the first couple weeks with people scattering to get living wills .....Who's agenda was that do you think! JUST A THOUGHT FOR THE DAY,,,,EM.

Posted by: heartz4 at April 21, 2005 8:57 AM

Ys, Amen! God is at work! I am so glad there are those other countries still moral and strong enough to say: "this is extrajudicial.This is a valuation of life or death". God must be so glad to see those who still are willing to value life and stand openly for it in court..

Posted by: juleni at April 21, 2005 12:20 PM

Just thought I would put up the 'to do' list I have been keeping track of, for the day:

Here is my daily update, with the noted suggestions I have recorded from the Blog here:

1. Campaign to END ANY AND ALL NOTIONS that a. human lives should ever be litigated or b. that killing someone is ever a choice. We have to be very
loud that all forms of killing and suicide are cruel, and the true kinder
path is instead solving the reasons people seek suicide and c. fight any notions that food and water are ever “optional” for human beings (nutrition and hydration). Promote everywhere legally, culturally, constitutionally, that everyone deserves to eat and drink.

2. Put page-sized or half page-sized thank you notes or thank you ads to legislators who take a stand for life (such as Tom DeLay) in the Washington Post, signed by all of us and any other groups we could get to join us. Each person could contribute a dollar along with their signature to help pay for these ads.

3. Prayer. - Establish “Prayer warriors” with 24/7 ongoing prayer, with people signing up to pray on a continual hour by hour basis. (Especially during times of getting another specific person through a situation of getting nutrition and/or hydration restored to them – and during times of persuading specific legislators or sponsoring/voting on a specific bill?)

4. A Brochure - have a brochure to give to people telling how the euthanasia movement lies and deceives people e.g. "death with dignity", "right to die" and to give contact information for support

5.Develop Shelters. - a. Guardians (medical powers of attorney) in the form of those who stand for life, and are willing to take on guardianship for those without such a trusted guardian available among their loved ones. These would be a group of pro-life professionals – doctors, clergy, lawyers who have taken an open stand for life and are willing to be named a guardian for someone who is in need of a trusted pro-life guardian. As people committed to life they would be loving; as people who have no agenda they would be impartial; as people with no financial interest in you they would have no temptation; and as people who are trained in life issues and not under emotional stress they could make the best human decisions possible.

b. Develop a "pro life seal of approval (award)" for specific nursing homes and long-term care facilities that do not starve or dehydrate people to death, willing to act as transfer facilities, voluntarily. Useful for when the person concerned is mentally competent enough to check themselves into one, or when a guardian (medical POA) would want the person concerned to go there (speaking for the person concerned).

c. Tax shelters of some sort (were mentioned)?

d. We, the bloggers are a current 'shelter' of sorts - at least a life raft of a kind - for those brought to our attention, such as Terri, Mae and Clara!

6. Create a Bumper Sticker - Make our presence known daily, maybe listing a website for further information

7. Crisis Line - by phone or website.

8. List of Contacts - have this readily and easily available (by state?) State agencies, media outlets, organizations etc. with emails, phone numbers, faxes etc.

9. State Coordinators: Would people volunteer to be a state or regional coordinator? This would allow us to rally quickly on a more local level.

10. The states have been allowed to decide for themselves what is “clear and convincing evidence” in a ‘right to die’ or ‘right to life’ case. So, put forward legislation in states where allowing "clear and convincing" evidence has not become a watered-down thing (as it has in Florida where just one person’s hearsay testimony is now accepted as evidence of desiring removal of a feeding tube), for mandating that *strong* evidence, absolute (written) evidence to be required before such a thing as removal of nutrition and hydration be allowed – in the form of a written statement by the person concerned while they were in a lucid and conscious state, if possible *with* knowledge of the possible pain involved in starvation and dehydration (informed consent).

11. Put forward legislation for *juries* to be involved in any and all such so-called "right to die" cases, so that the people may be involved in deciding the case.

12. Legislation at a national level for absolute protection of the disabled and incapacitated.

13. Discredit Felos et. al.

a. Monitor Felos and his talks. It would help to be able to dispute point for point his fallacies and distortions. Do not let him run rampant unchecked and (unsupervised). As in 'Keep your friends close but your enemies closer'...People need to be made aware of how he is SO against God's teachings as to be considered, yes, evil.

b. Sign up to receive email news from Roth Talent where Felos has signed on to be a speaker. When he comes to town, go and hear him speak (UGH!!) Know what he is saying. Keep tabs on him.

c. Have a presence in the media and also on the speaking circuit to try to minimize the damage that they (Felos, M. Schiavo, etc.) will do in the upcoming future.

Posted by: juleni at April 21, 2005 12:22 PM

God, I love the Italians!

Posted by: ahem at April 21, 2005 7:00 PM