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March 18, 2005

Peggy Noonan on Terri Schiavo: 'Don't Kick It'

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This article is very appropriate because Tim and I (2 of the BlogsForTerri folks) were just talking on the telephone about identifying every single Republican in the Florida and US House and Senate that failed Terri Schiavo. We intend to establish the Terri Schiavo "Wall of Shame" and commit tonight to seeing to it that BlogsForTerri and every pro-life blogger we can muster makes sure that those Republicans are NOT REELECTED!

On the political implications of Terri's case: "If Terri Schiavo is killed, Republicans will pay a political price. "

It appears we've reached the pivotal moment in the Terri Schiavo case, and it also appears our politicians, our senators and congressmen, might benefit from some observations.

In America today all big stories have three dimensions: a legal angle, a public-relations angle and a political angle. In the Schiavo case some of our politicians seem not to be fully appreciating the second and third. This is odd.

Here's both a political and a public-relations reality: The Republican Party controls the Senate, the House and the White House. The Republicans are in charge. They have the power. If they can't save this woman's life, they will face a reckoning from a sizable portion of their own base. And they will of course deserve it.

This should concentrate their minds.

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Hat tip - Michelle Malkin

Related commentary - Hidden Nook

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Wall of shame? Count me in!

Posted by: greg at March 18, 2005 5:41 PM

I'm not so sure. Defeating Republicans generally means electing Democrats. On balance I'd rather see Republicans in office - even if they didn't do everything I'd want them to - than Democrats.

With Democrats we're sure to get even more judges like Greer.

Posted by: corrie at March 18, 2005 5:45 PM

I agree with you on that greg.

Posted by: donna at March 18, 2005 5:47 PM

Just let her go!! What the parents have done, and lawyers and fanatics continue to do is appalling. I've worked in a many Nursing homes and have seen many of these cases. What is happenning is not prolonging life, it's prolonging pain, agony and eventual death. This is why there are ethics in professional health care. Where is her quality of life? Will that consist of bed sores, UTI's, decubitus. No facility if perfect and it(skin break down)does happen. God Bless Terri!

Posted by: The RecGuy at March 18, 2005 5:54 PM

If the Republicans will pay a political price if she dies, they have an incentive to make sure Terri lives. Conversely, if that is true, then the Democrats have an incentive to see that Terri is killed.

Let's not forget about Judge Greer also. He should be impeached and thrown in jail for contempt of Congress. He should be disbarred, and charged with murder. Michael Schiavo should be held in contempt of Congress, should be arrested on conspiracy, murder, obstruction of justice, and endangering the welfare of a guardian.

The "doctors" and "nurses" in that hospice should be jailed for contempt of Congress, endangering the welfare of a person and/or murder. They should have their licenses revoked.

Time to throw the book at every one of these people.

Posted by: Sydney Carton at March 18, 2005 5:55 PM

As a registered Republican but former Democrat (raised, in fact, as a "yellow dog democrat"), I am especially disheartened that Terry's fate has become a political issue, and that the leaders of my former
party are once again aligned with the forces of death.

This disheartenment is nothing compared to the pain the currect situation is causing to Terry's family and soon enough to Terry herself.

If nothing is done on behalf of Terry by the Florida or Federal legislature, yes, Peggy Noonan is right, we should be plenty mad at the majority party. However, we should be a lot madder at the Democrats in the Senate who are attempting to have it both ways: acting like they want to give redress to Terry's parents while at the same time cavilling about the language in the House bill. Clearly, the Dems in the Senate are hoping to pass a bill that will give them cover but still allow the Democrat Florida judge the ability to carry out the execution of Terry.

Posted by: Linda at March 18, 2005 5:55 PM

Greer was a Republican, not a Democrat. See below (from a MSNBC.com biography):

"After graduating from FSU and earning a law degree from the University of Florida, Greer settled into a Clearwater practice, specializing in zoning and land use issues. He married, had twin boys, and divorced in the mid 1970s.

In 1984, he ran for Pinellas County Commission, running against the board's only Democrat. Greer won a narrow victory, campaigning on his opposition to building a Pinellas sports stadium that would eventually be built and is today Tropicana Field."

Posted by: anonymous at March 18, 2005 5:57 PM

RecGuy, have you also witnessed these people, at the time they're told and comprehend that their feeding tube is being removed, cry, try to say "I want to live" over and over so that they can hardly be quieted down? Because this is what the attorney and other witnesses state happened today. It's really demonic what is taking place. And talk about bed sores...read the death protocol produced by this hospice at Terri's first attempt at starvation if you wish to visual the types of sores caused by such a murder. Thrownback blog has it for you if you're interested.

Posted by: chris K at March 18, 2005 6:00 PM

The fact that he ran against an incumbent Democrat twenty years ago says far les than his ruling today.

RecGuy, where there is life there is hope. That's the point.

Posted by: corrie at March 18, 2005 6:01 PM

More info on Judge Greer (from a Tampa Bay paper):

CLEARWATER - Some of the hundreds of e-mails and letters he gets call him a "murderer."

"Are you related to (Josef) Mengele, or just a student?" one man wrote, referring to the ruthless Nazi doctor.

An indignant woman who believed his decisions weren't Christian once called and asked if he thought he was going to heaven.

Deputies who fear for his safety escort him to and from work.

That's life these days for Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer, who has ruled that Terri Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed, allowing her to die. Greer sits at the epicenter of the international debate over Schiavo's life, a judge who answers critics with the only rebuttal allowed by rules of judicial conduct:


"The really difficult part of this job," Greer said, "is that you can't defend yourself."

The world knows so much about Schiavo's life, but little about the 63-year-old Greer.

A balding man whose voice has no trace of his native Brooklyn, he travels to unwind and jogs to stay fit. He has run two marathons, though the last was 20 years ago. Friends say his eyesight is awful. It's so bad, in fact, that he doesn't drive.

And Greer, vilified by many religious protesters, is a church regular. He also is a conservative Republican in a state whose conservative Republican governor tried to overturn one of Greer's orders.

"George is the religious right," said lawyer David Kurland, a longtime friend.

Posted by: anonymous at March 18, 2005 6:03 PM

chris, please check the other threads - the attorney said that THAT SHE TRIED TO COACH HER into saying "I want to live" but could not. Spreading rumors that will be proven false does not help.

Posted by: corrie at March 18, 2005 6:05 PM

Despite what a Tampa newspaper says, a conservative judge should err on the side of life. Perhaps Greer should retire and then he can explain his reasoning, no longer bound by the rules of judicial conduct.

Posted by: corrie at March 18, 2005 6:09 PM

A conservative judge needs to obey the law as best he/she can, not make it up. If you read some of the articles written today, the legality of the action take by this Congressional Committee is very shaky, given that Congress has not acted itself.

What you want is an activist judge.

Posted by: anonymous at March 18, 2005 6:21 PM

Now that would be great. Going after the Republicans wouldn't would help anything but get more Democrats elected and then where will we be?

Posted by: Greg at March 18, 2005 6:26 PM

Plus, what good would it do when Liberal activist judges will just over rule anything put into law. A better thing to do would be to make sure that we get as many conservative judgeesn the bench as possible.

Posted by: Greg at March 18, 2005 6:29 PM

As an Ohioan I have to say that I am ashamed and disgusted at my 2 jerks for Senators, Voinovich and DeWine. Neither of these morons have the courage to speak out for Terri. They both are on my top list to campaign against in their next elections...anybody of Voinovich and DeWine.

Posted by: Marine Momma at March 18, 2005 6:34 PM

RE: [On the political implications of Terri's case: "If Terri Schiavo is killed, Republicans will pay a political price."]
I disagree. Democrats are already paying the price, and it will get much higher if Terri is murdered.**********

Today, it's about 95% republicans and 5% democrats trying to save Terri's life. Please do not try to spin this the other way. I'm just sad that democrats in power have to be so anti-life, anti-law, anti-disabled, anti-social, anti-moral, etc. They turned me away in 1998 and I'll NEVER go back!**********

Greer a republican? About as much as Bill Clinton! Don't believe everything you read.**********

Greer a "regular church goer" ... so is the "BTK" Killer in Kansas! Being a "regular church goer" proves not a thing! It can be a good cover for a murderer.**********

Did you know that the great Greer denied water and food by mouth for Terri!?! Is this the United States or Nazi Germany?**********

Death by dehydration and starvation is cruel and unusual, and therefore unconstitutional and tantamount to murder by torture.


Congress has issued subpoenas for Ms. Terri Schiavo.

With extraordinary speed behind closed doors, Judge Greer (who else) is attempting to block these subpoenas. So, WHAT is Greer attempting to hide? Judicial decisions like this have always taken days if not months in the past, and I cannot think of a single past case where a local judge made a decision in just a few hours to override the will and power of both the U.S. House and Senate. Again, WHAT is he trying to hide? I would like to see a FULL INVESTIGATION into what's going on here!!!!

The U.S. Marshals Service, as an enforcement arm of the U.S. Congress should IMMEDIATELY take protective custody of Ms. Schiavo so she can appear before Congress next week as scheduled.


Posted by: Rick Allen at March 18, 2005 6:52 PM

So the people that condemn Democrats for using Terri Schiavo as a political playing chip (myself included) are now using Terri Schiavo as a political fire bomb.

That's quite contradictory. People, let's focus on news and spreading the word; not an agenda.

I have to agree with Corrie in this case.

Posted by: Chris Short at March 18, 2005 6:53 PM

So, are we going to blame Republicans for what a far left wing judge did? Shouldn't we be after him?

Posted by: CJ at March 18, 2005 7:32 PM

Who says he's STILL a Republican? He was one in 1984, that's a long time ago.

In fact, he resigned from his Baptist church today in a letter. His pastor (named Rice btw) has been active in the Save Terri things.

Posted by: Ruth at March 18, 2005 7:39 PM

if terri is at the place where we no longer consider a person alive, then all the people out there who have alzheimers are next in line, because they are in the same condition as terri is. They can't feed themselves nor can they dress or even respond to you 98% of the time so I guess now the courts will be telling us we have to stop feeding them.

Posted by: gina at March 18, 2005 8:52 PM

gina, that's exactly where it's going. God help us.

Posted by: Marine Momma at March 18, 2005 9:01 PM

Gina, that was exactly my reaction.

I cannot imagine being trapped, as Terri is, in an unresponsive body, and having someone else decide to stop feeding me.

Posted by: Bostonian at March 18, 2005 9:27 PM


You're wrong. We're not looking for judicial activism here, just a judge who is willing to do his job without prejudice. Go see the videos at terrisfight.org and come back & tell me if you think this judge is doing his job.

And if you think he is, please explain how Alzhieimer's patients are not next in line to be denied food.

Posted by: Bostonian at March 18, 2005 9:30 PM

Remember folks, it is the Republicans that are fighting FOR Terri, it is the Democrats and liberal judges that are fighting to kill her. They are going as far as filibustering any attempt to help her (another reason to end the filibuster, but that's off the topic). I have posted audio of an interview with Congressman James Sensenbrenner (R-Wi) and he describes the fight the opposition is putting up.


He also addresses Noonan's comments about blaming Republicans.

Posted by: Patrick at March 18, 2005 9:50 PM

Need to run out those dems & those scientologists

Someone says George Greer is a curchgoer

Dr Rice got a letter yesterday and Greer quit the church

Hes not a churchgoer anymore unless he goes to the Hotel

Posted by: G M McLaughlin at March 18, 2005 11:37 PM

I'm still SEETHING at Peggy Noonan's stupidity (again). It's cannibals like her that ensure the legislative balance will swing to the left AGAIN. I wrote her asking her if she happened to remember an election in 1992 where people said the same tripe about Bush '41 because of ONE ISSUE ("read my lips" ring a bell?), and look what we got for the next eight years. Certainly those same people weren't happy Klintoon was elected!

BIG PICTURE, FOLKS! Single-issue fights serve NO ONE. Blah!!!!

Now, back to FOCUSING ON TERRI, not on whom to exact revenge from our own!

Posted by: Beth at March 19, 2005 2:43 AM

IMHO, george greer is no Republican. Nor is he a Christian as he claims. He resigned from his church because they didn't want to have him among their members; who would.

You know BTK was a "wonderful, church going, Christian father", but he "bound, tortured, and killed" his victims. Now, we have a BTK judge DEMONSTRATING his disdain for life. By court order/approval, michael shitavo bound his wife to a wheelchair in a hospice cell---without any daylight or trips from the cell (which even prisoners get); Terri spent years in basically solitary confinement. Now, by order and consent of the BTK judge greer, michael has begun the slow torture of his wife until he succeeds in killing her.

Everyone spread the word---george greer is the BTK killer of the Judicary.

Posted by: Tress at March 19, 2005 9:55 AM