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March 19, 2005

Mary Schindler's Plea

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Mary Schindler, Terri Schiavo's mother, stood before a microphone moments ago.

In that building behind me my daughter is starving to death...

We laugh together. We cry together. We smile together. We talk together...

Please, please, please, save my little girl.

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Comments

Has Hypnotherapy been tried to help Terri?

Posted by: Trudi at March 19, 2005 12:18 PM

I just watched Mrs. Schindler's (Terri's mom's) statement, and she spoke in the present tense. But IMMEDIATELY, even FoxNews got it wrong and quoted Mrs. Schindler as if she had spoken in the past tense, in their text captions. As if Terri was already gone.

God, can't ANYONE get this story right??

Terri's mom will be back at 2pm Eastern Time with another statement.

I want Attorney Barbara Weller to come to the microphones herself again! She witnessed Terri try to speak to save herself yesterday.

Posted by: Suzanne. at March 19, 2005 12:27 PM

IamBrainDamaged2
I am a SEVERELY BRAIN-DAMAGED man who was nearly killed in an accident and spent two months on life-support. I had a feeding tube! A machine even BREATHED for me!


My wife just knew - as her husband thinks he does - that I would not wish to live on machines.

My wife did a “Do-Not-Revive” order and had the respirator disconnected.

As I lay there and the respirator was turned off, my brother held my hand. I was supposed to die. He says that I squeezed his hand. I began to breathe on my own but barely. The doctors told my brother and my parents that it was ‘normal’ for a person to seem to squeeze as they died. They were told my oxygenation would slowly decrease till I died. A neuro-surgeon was brought and asked me how many fingers he held up and I raised two fingers. He asked me to give him a thumbs-up and I did. They were all amazed and life-support was returned as needed. My wife was grieving my death in the hospital chapel already and was simply amazed! She had been told that I would die.

I was estimated to have AT BEST the mental abilities of a toddler. I was one an ETREMELY smart man but did not type much as a toddler! Due to my ‘diffuse axonal’ brain injury I have forgotten most of my past. A court already declared me incompetent and my LOVING wife is now my guardian. She is surrendering her life to ministry. I may have said that I wouldn’t want to live as a vegetable as my wife said I had. How many would actually choose living years on a machine over a painless death! My wife never lies and would not say I chose to be disconnected if I had not!

It is extremely obvious that life would have been easier for her had I died. I had a stroke and was left a T-9 paraplegic. I type this with one hand because I lost most use of one arm. My LOVING wife emptied my bladder and colon for two years. I am nowhere near the man I once was. My wife still cries over loosing the man I once was. That annoys me a little. I am NOT glad that I am a paraplegic and brain-damaged. I delivered my daughter into the world according to others but I have no memory of it. Who would have ever forgotten that? I can recognize my daughter but have no memories of her! DANG!

One of the leading causes of death in paraplegics is suicide! Every day I choose to live! I may have at one time felt living connected to a machine was worse than death, but I had never tried it! I have now! I have lived in a vegetative state! Although I hope to just die quickly with no pain, I now choose to live by ANY means God provides. I STILL feel it was a loving act of my wife to disconnect me when she did! It is hard to imagine loving anyone enough to give them up as dead. It would be even if the loved one thought it might be better in certain cases!

I feel I could testify to congress and help out. Keep in mind that I am ‘legally’ incompetent and would need assistance getting there and my speech is not too good. I could probably help the husband accept letting his wife’s feeding tube remain. My phone number is 479-263-4795 and my loving wife/guardian’s number is available if you wish!

Posted by: CurtisNeeley at March 19, 2005 12:27 PM

Terri's loving husband won't allow any therapy; that therapy money was used for legal fees. It's for helping Terri die, not helping Terri live. Terri's loving husband won't allow Terri to receive the Eucharist (oh but that's just a stupid Catholic thing anyway, so who cares, right?). Terri's loving husband won't allow Terri to try to drink a glass of water. I guess she told him on that fateful day, "Michael, if I ever end up in a hospital bed unable to talk, I don't want you to try to give me water to drink. Just let me dehydrate to death."

Though perhaps Terri's loving husband could try to feed Terri himself, if he wasn't too busy fathering children with his new fiancee.

Posted by: JWL at March 19, 2005 12:28 PM

>Has Hypnotherapy been tried to help Terri?

No. No therapy whatsover is allowed, not even a facecloth put into her hands to relieve the curling contractions is allowed. By order of rogue Judge Greer.

Posted by: Suzanne. at March 19, 2005 12:31 PM

A BOYCOTT for the entire State of Florida is in order untill the DEATH JUDGES are removed from office

Posted by: Herb at March 19, 2005 12:37 PM

If the US Marshals will not enforce Congressional Subpoenas, then perhaps it is time for the Florida National Guard to do so.

According to the FNG History on its website: "Eighteen times between 1965 and 1985 the Guard was called for service in such situations. A few of those calls were precautionary; Guardsmen were employed to help plan for the contingency of violence, as during major rock music festivals, but most were calls to help quell major riots. The Liberty City riots of May 1980 required the deployment of thousands of Florida Guardsmen. Some rioters and looters died, and fires destroyed much private property. It is occasions such as these that a well trained and led Guard performs its most dangerous and necessary state function. And busy is hardly an adequate word to describe the Florida Guard’s state active service during the first half of the year 1980. Never, in any state at any time, has a state National Guard performed so much active state duty, computed as man-days of service, as the Florida National Guard between January and July of 1980, during the Cuban refugee boatlift and the Liberty City riots."

Riots? Boat Lifts? Rock Music Festivals? Then why not have THEM enforce the Congressional Subpoenas if the US Marshal Office will not?

Call or email Governor Bush now.

Robert W. Smith MD

Posted by: Robert W. Smith MD at March 19, 2005 12:41 PM

The state of Florida will do nothing. Jeb Bush and DR Gambone (the original doctor certifying her PVS) can be seen here

http://www.fmda.org/about.html

What a lovely couple.

Posted by: Maobi at March 19, 2005 12:48 PM

It's time for civil disobedience. It's time to give up on the corrupt legal system and do justice for Terri. Get a group of men who will go to the wall to get a priest in there who can administer Last Rites, if not save her life.

Posted by: Charles M. de Nunzio at March 19, 2005 12:56 PM

Well, truthfully, Governor Bush HAS tried to help but has been prevented from doing anything because of Judge Greer.

I don't think boycotting Florida is the answer since so many legislators there support Terri, including Governor Bush.

Posted by: Ruth at March 19, 2005 12:57 PM

Whether anyone joins me or not, I'm fasting for Terri! I'm no Ghandi, but a national fast would certainly get some attention.

Posted by: Virginia at March 19, 2005 1:01 PM

Curtis:

Your story is indeed moving. God bless.

Posted by: Ruth at March 19, 2005 1:05 PM

Ruth:

Well, truthfully, Jeb Bush hasn't done a THING to help Terri. He currently has the authority to save her, right now, under emergency protective services intervention per Fla. statutes Ch. 415.1051(2). Judge Greer does not have authority over Jeb Bush and the Executive branch (it's called "Separation of Powers").

So Jeb simply needs to get the courage to do the right thing and take Terri into protective custody AS THE LAW STIPULATES!!

The question is, why doesn't he?

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 1:07 PM

I think the blogverse should put a full court press behind getting an fMRI. Trying to get congress to suborn states rights will never work in time, and the supreme court is along shot. An fMRI coul be done immediately. Then if there is any cortical function whatsoever, terri might be saved. Of course, there may not be.

Posted by: jinnderella at March 19, 2005 1:10 PM

Well, the urgency is to stop the starvation first. The MRI can be next (among many other steps)

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 1:12 PM

Bryan:

People need to continue to phone his office with the statute you mentioned.

It seems that only Tom DeLay is really going to bat for her.

Posted by: Ruth at March 19, 2005 1:12 PM

If it takes an ACT of Congress to have Terri's Rights recognized, That is just what it takes!

Michael Schiavo has recieved 1.7million dollars in a malpractice case for Terri!
Suddenly "There is no money." Say's michael. THOSE FUNDS SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVESTED FOR TERRI! INSTEAD HE HAS USED THOSE FUNDS ON LEGAL FEES TO MEET HER DEMISE!
THAT IS A TOTAL ABUSE OF POWER!

You can't expect us to believe you "Love" Terri when you have set up house and created a new family... WHAT A CREEP!

Posted by: Linda at March 19, 2005 1:18 PM

Ruth:

Tom DeLay (God bless him) hasn't done a THING either! There is a current House subpoena for Terri Schiavo: has he worked to have the US Marshals take her into protective custody? That was the whole point of issuing the subpoena and Greer ignored it. Now we have Terri currently being starved to death and the House GOP is doing NOTHING (That I can see) to have their subpoena enforced. They need to have the US Marshals act NOW!! President Bush needs to instruct AG Gonzales to send the US Marshals to enforce the House subpoena. Why doesn't he, if he cares so much about Terri?

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 1:19 PM

Forget these gutless politicians! Get some real Christian men to storm the barricades at Suncoast Hospice and actually DO something!! Give this woman the Last Rites that she needs for her eternal salvation, and try to feed her if you can! And make sure there's a camera crew when you do it so that the police will look every bit as much the defenders of evil as they did when Bull Connor let loose the dogs in 1963!

Posted by: Charles M. de Nunzio at March 19, 2005 1:25 PM

Men of the West — where are you when Terri needs you? Gutless politicians are no match for the orcs of Sauron and Sauruman!

Posted by: Charles M. de Nunzio at March 19, 2005 1:28 PM

Virginia,

Go to http://www.fastforterri.com

Posted by: John Klemick at March 19, 2005 1:55 PM

As a sometimes student of the US Constitution, I wonder -- if the Florida courts are in violation of it, why the Congress cant fix it.

Section 1 of the 13th Amendment states that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment of for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States..." Sec 2 states "Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislatiion."

Oddly, in the Italian language the name "Sciavo" means "slave". Has her husband made her a slave of the Florida courts so she can be legally killed through unconstitutional actions that are also depriving her of "Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness" without her having been convicted of a crime?

Is this Idea too far out?

Bob

Posted by: Bob Paglee at March 19, 2005 2:11 PM

Bob,

As a sometime student of the constitution I'm sure you understand that the Terri "right to Life..." also means her right to refuse medical treatment which the courts have ruled to be the case here.

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 2:22 PM

kpwoodlock:

Terri has never been able to refuse medical treatment because she has never been represented by an attorney.

I suggest that you educate yourself as to the facts (Schiavogate, the big cover up):
http://www.theempirejournal.com/0313055_schiavogate_the_big_cove.htm

and

http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/2005/02/a_few_facts_abo.php

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 2:38 PM

kpwoodlock,

Can you prove that Terri has "chosen" to refuse medical treatment?

Posted by: sujata at March 19, 2005 2:41 PM

Bryan,

I guess you don't believe in the rule of law then. That would make you a Anarchist. As long as you don't want to have any laws, then maybe that group down in front of Terri's Nursing Home decides they have the power to decide all citizens have to believe in Jesus or have brown hair, or no beards, or can't have the name Bryan. That's what happens in an Anarchy.

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 2:49 PM

sujata,

It's simple. Ask yourself if you would want to be in the same condition. Then ask yourself have you ever expressed that to anyone else. Do you have a living will and made that clear. If not, your spouse, or someone else, could be going through the same thing Michael is going through right now. Imagine that you expressed your wishes to your mother but not to your father and when something happens your mother says let her go but your father says no keep her on a feeding tube forever because she's my little girl. They could end up in court against each other trying to do what they both think is best for you.

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 2:57 PM

kpwoodlock:

Of course I believe in the rule of law. That's all we want here is for Terri to have due process under the law. It is plainly evident and well documented that throughout all these years, Judge Greer is NOT following the rule of law, and neither are the courts. As I posted before, EDUCATE YOURSELF AS TO THE FACTS OF THE CASE. Read the Sciavogate post on the Empire Journal. Read the posts from the many medical professionals that have spent time with Terri. You, of course, are entitled to your opinions, but at least be informed of the facts. If you dispute the facts posted, PROVE IT OTHERWISE.

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 4:01 PM

Bryan,

One educates oneself by studying both sides of an issue. I have, obviously you have not. Which makes you ignorant on the subject.

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 6:29 PM

kpwoodlock:

I have studied both sides of the issue. If Terri was brain dead with no hope, if Terri was truly in a "persisitive vegetative state", then I would have a different take. Just because a suspect judge has ruled so doesn't make it true!

But because there is SO much evidence of SO much wrongdoing by both the caregiver and the judge, in the interest of JUSTICE I think it important to err on the side of caution. We are, after all, taking about a precious human being, not a blob or clay or an asparagus.

I and many others want to see the JUSTICE system work. The plain bypassing of the laws by the caregiver and the judge raise enough suspicion to warrant more investigation. Terri has NEVER had her own attorney. Her husband changed his tune after many years of therapy.

I recommend that YOU research both sides before you accuse me of not doing so. There are too many credible people out there with conflicting information to allow this to be swept under the rug. If you have read all the research at this blod, The Empire Journal, and other websites, and still hold to your opinion, that's your right.

Oh, and where in the law does it give Judge Greer the right to allow an innocent person to be tortured to death by starvation? Certainly not the US Constitution.

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 7:04 PM

Bryan,

You haven't studied both sides. All you done is read one sides representation of the others side.
What would possibly make you think this judge is "suspect"? Don't you think the judges over him would remove him if he was doing something wrong? Or are all the judges in the State of Florida "suspect", too? And don't you think if there was SO much evidence against the caregiver he would be under arrest? Or are all the police in Florida "suspect", too?

And by the way, the US Constitution gives TERRI the "Right of life, liberty and happiness", which means she also has the right to refuse medical treatment, which this "suspect" judge agreed she requested, as did the "suspect" Appeals Court, and the "suspect" Florida Supreme Court.

Maybe it is this blog and the Empire Journal that is "suspect". It makes for a smaller conspiracy and they have an agenda. The State of Florida judicial system doesn't have an agenda.

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 9:23 PM

Bryan,

Also, the "suspect judge didn't just decide that Terri is in PVS. 3 doctors, well known and credentialed in their field, two of Michael's and ONE APPOINTED BY THE COURT, examined her and came to the same conclusion. PVS. Or did these "suspect" doctors risk their reputations and licences by lying to the court so they could help Michael kill his wife.

Boy, this conspiracy goes on and on, doesn't it?

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 9:35 PM

kpwoodlock:

Once again, you display your ignorance.

Educate yourself:

http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/2005/03/medical_facts_a.php#more

Yes, I agree with you: the conspiracy goes on and on.

BTW, I love how you keep changing the subject!

I'll stay on topic though: Terri is a precious person who has been DENIED adequate legal and medical care. You can cite anything that Judge Greer has ruled on, and it is suspect because HE is suspect!

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 9:48 PM

kp woodlock:

Sorry I missed your 9:23 PM blog.

Here's why I think Judge Greer and the former Pinellas Co, Sheriff are suspect:

http://www.theempirejournal.com/03180511_rETIRED_FLORIDA_SHERIFF_SPEAKS_OUT.html

http://www.theempirejournal.com/0313055_schiavogate_the_big_cove.htm

http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/2005/03/this_is_an_exce.php#more

http://www.terrisfight.org/myths.html

I don't expect you to change your mind, but at least you know some of the info I do. I invite you to present evidence that refutes any or all of these allegations. Logic dictates that rulings by Judge Greer do not refute these allegations, but you already know that (or do you?)

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 10:01 PM

Sorry, the first link is no longer any good. Here's the article:

RETIRED FLORIDA SHERIFF SPEAKS OUT!

An Open Letter to
“We the People of the United States of America”

by: John J McDougall, retired Florida Sheriff of Lee County Florida.

Imagine for a moment that you are a Circuit Court Judge. A terrified woman comes before your Court pleading for her life. She testifies under oath, that her violent and demented husband raped her, set her clothes on fire and threatens to kill her. She needs your help and petitions your court for an Injunction for Protection. What would you do? Well this is what a real Circuit Court Judge of the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida; by the name of Judge George W. Greer decided. He actually had this exact case come before his bench seven years ago, when Helene Ball McGee, from Dunedin Florida pleaded with him to grant her an Injunction for Protection. Helene was in absolute fear for her life. Judge George W. Greer, however, refused to help her, because (according to him) she had not shown him “enough proof” that her husband was physically violent yet. Two weeks later her deranged husband, Bobby Lane McGee, stabbed her to death. Perhaps if Bobby lane McGee, had raped Judge Greer first, he would have had a much better insight into the physically violent nature of her husband.

Now this same gender biased Judge, with utter disdain for women, is the same Judge in charge of the Terri Schindler Schiavo Case. True to form, this Judge continues to ignore the Constitutional rights of Due Process for Terri Schindler Schiavo, in much the same way he did to Helene Ball McGee, who was violently murdered seven years ago this month. Terri who is physically disabled, has trouble swallowing food on her own and because of this Judge Greer has seen fit to order her feeding tube removed. Her Court appointed “Guardian” husband who has since abandoned her for another woman, (with whom he has fathered two children) wants her dead and has asked Judge Greer’s permission to use hundreds of thousands of dollars from her Medical Trust Fund Money to pay his blood-sucking lawyers to find a way to make this happen.

It worked; Judge George W. Greer has now ignored her parents plea for help and has ordered Terri’s execution by starvation and dehydration to begin on March 18, 2005. This cruel, torturous, and horrifying death of yet another woman before his Court will take up to 10 days of horrific suffering to cause her to die. But Judge Greer is not without mercy, no sir; he will allow her parents permission to stay and watch their daughter starve to death. What is wrong with this picture? Is this the same United States of America, whose US Supreme Court is inscribed with the words, “Equal Justice under law.” While Terri starves and cries out for justice; our distinguished Supreme Court Justices will be to busy to hear, because they will be deciding how best to abolish those embarrassing “Ten Commandments” of which, the Fifth Commandment is, “Thou shall not kill.” God help us. Every person of conscience in this Country should be ready to travel to the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court House, in Pinellas County Florida, and scream at the top of their lungs, that this is Murder! This is Murder! This is Murder!

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 10:07 PM