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March 19, 2005

Latest Update From Bobby Schindler in Washington: "Keep Frying the Phones"

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As extremist as it makes me sound, I believe that this entire matter has turned into a battle between those that value the mystery of life, and those that don't. George Felos, the euthanasia-advocate attorney of Michael Schiavo, is on television calling for the death advocates to call their senators and representatives. We have to make sure that we generate a tsunami of callers and emailers to combat any such action on the part of those that wish to cheapen life itself.

- via telephone call at 09:53 ET

Bobby Schindler is still in Washington, fighting for his sister's life. He said to "please have the blogs keep up the pressure all weekend, my sister's life depends on them getting the word out for people to keep calling their senators and representatives!"

Bobby said that his mother is having a terrible time with this, is very distraught, but she and the entire Schindler family are going to continue to fight for Terri and that they pray that the bloggers will keep fighting for Terri. The family feels that the blogs are perhaps Terri's best chance of getting the volume of calls needed to convince the right people to make the right decision.

PLEASE REPOST THE URGENT ACTION ALERT SEVERAL TIMES A DAY, ALL WEEKEND LONG. ALSO, CALL AND EMAIL YOUR SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES, AND URGE YOUR READERS AND FELLOW BLOGGERS TO DO THE SAME.

Posted by richard at March 19, 2005 9:49 AM


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Comments

It seems a "husband" living with another woman has the right to decide if his spouse lives or dies. What would we say if this happened in Afghanistan? We would say it is barbaric!!!

Who among us would starve a pet to death? Would the laws in the US permit this? Then why does the law allow Terri to die of starvation over two weeks?

Posted by: sujata at March 19, 2005 10:43 AM

Jeb Bush has the lawful authority to save Terri NOW:

Here is the Florida statute that gives Jeb Bush the emergency authority to save Terri!

“2) EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE SERVICES INTERVENTION.--If the department has reasonable cause to believe that a vulnerable adult is suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury to the vulnerable adult and that the vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to emergency protective services, the department may take action under this subsection.”

Contact info:

E-mail:
Governor Jeb Bush
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

Write:
PL 05 The Capitol
400 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001

Telephone:
850/488-4441
Fax: 850/487-0801

Link to statute:
2004->Ch0415->Section%201051#0415.1051">2004->Ch0415->Section%201051#0415.1051">http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0415/SEC1051.HTM&Title=->2004->Ch0415->Section%201051#0415.1051

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 10:45 AM

Someone needs to make sure people are aware that michael Schiavo recieved a malpractice settlement for Terri.
He has misused his guardianship power! That money should have been invested for Terri and used for her care! Not a dime should have been used of that money on legal fees to meet her demise! Not to mention Michael. Legally as guardian he can pay himself a portion for his expenses . Terri needs a new independent guardian, Michael has a conflict of interest since he has moved on with his life and created a new family!

IF IT TAKES AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO STEP IN AND HELP THIS SEVERLY HANDICAPPED WOMAN THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE!!!! God Bless Tom Delay for stepping up to help speak for this individual who can not speak for herself!

Posted by: Linda at March 19, 2005 10:47 AM

I'm on a mission to find anyone willing to fast from food so long as Terri is being starved.

Posted by: Virginia at March 19, 2005 10:47 AM

Sarah Scantlin came out of a coma after 20 years!!! and they want to kill Terri before she can get out of her coma?? Why????????

Posted by: sujata at March 19, 2005 10:55 AM

sujata: Terri is NOT in a coma! That's the whole point here!

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 11:00 AM

Bryan, I agree, that was my mistake. So this makes it even worse, doesn't it - to starve a conscious person to death over two weeks.

A society is judged by the way they treat their weakest, so what does it say about those who want to starve Terri to death?

Posted by: sujata at March 19, 2005 11:06 AM

Linda:

I like Tom DeLay too, but if the Congress does not enforce its subpoena/invitation by insuring Terri's tube is reinserted and she is placed in protective custody NOW, then all those guys up there are cowards and weaklings, and politicians as usual. If Terri dies, it is the GOP's fault, pure and simple, and I will once again leave the GOP for the Constitution Party.
Terri is precious! The politicians' duty is to save her!

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 11:35 AM

I looked-up guardianship on the web. On http//guardianship.usalaw.com/principles.html
PRINCIPLES OUTLINED BY THE NATIONAL GUARDIANSHIP ASSOCIATION

In 1991, the Nga adopted A Model Code of Ethics for Guardians(Cassanto, Simon, and Roman, 1990) and developed an accompanying set of standards as guidelines for guardians and others involved providing guardianship or alternative protective services. The model code and set of standards are available through NGA in their publication, Ethics and Standards for Guardians,(1991). The following principles have been excerpted from this document.

Rule 1. A guardian shall exercise extreme care and diligence when making decisions on behalf of a ward. All decisions should be made in a manner that protects the civil rights and liberties of the ward and maximizes independece and self-reliance.

Rule 2. The guardian shall exhibit the highest degree of trust, loyalty, and fidelity in relation to the ward.

Rule 3. The guardian shall assume legal custody of the ward and shall ensure the ward resides in the least restrictive enviroment available.

Rule 4. The guardian shall assume responsibility to provide informed consent on the behalf of the ward for the provision of care, treatment and services andshall ensure that such care, treatment and services represents the least restrictive form of intervention available.

Rule 5. The guardian of the estate shall provide competent management of the property and income of the estate. In the discharge of this duty, the guardian shall exercise intelligence, prudence, and diligence and avoid any self-interest.

Rule 6. The guardian has an affirmative obligation to see termination or limitation of the guardianship whenever indicated.

This is just one more reason for Terri's life that shows how really unfit Michael is and how bias judge Greer is!

Posted by: Caryn at March 19, 2005 11:46 AM

Are you people retarded or something? This woman has no cerebral cortex. Her brain is filling with spinal fluid. You know those so-called "signs of life" you think are proof that she's aware? Those aren't signs of life. Those are involuntary actions which occur as the synapses in her brain die off one by one. Basic elementary school biology would tell you this. I'm left to conclude that either you're woefully ignorant on this subject or are just choosing to be.

Whatever made up Terri is gone. She's a body without a mind.

In life Terri was obsessive about her appearance. Can any of you honestly say that she'd want to be in such a condition? Can any of you honestly say that you yourselves would wish to be in such a condition? The court has already ruled what Terri's intentions were on this subject. If it wasn't for a family so obsessive they just can't face the truth of the matter and a so-called "pro-life" movement using this woman to serve their own hypocritical grandstanding, Terri would have been at peace (the way she apparently wanted it) long ago.

Shame on all of you.

Posted by: Voice Of Reason at March 19, 2005 11:49 AM

As extremist as it makes me sound, I believe that this entire matter has turned into a battle between those that value the mystery of life, and those that don't.

Then I guess I'm an extremist too, because I have said as much myself and I agree wholeheartedly. I have listened to an endless parade of "Right to Die" lunatics who can't recognize that Terri's case is not theirs, fervently chanting their mantra that she's better off dead, that killing her is the "merciful" thing to do. Every time I hear another one of them claim that death by starvation is "peaceful and dignified," my stomach churns.

It's not just you: This IS truly a question of whether one places more value on Life or on Death.

Posted by: Tao Libra at March 19, 2005 11:53 AM

Dear Voice of Reason:

I dare you to read this:

http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/2005/03/medical_facts_a.php#more

Posted by: Ruth at March 19, 2005 11:54 AM

The question is not whether it's a Right To Die case. This is a Right To Live case.

FYI, I am pro-choice and not Christian.

The inhumanity of many people here is appalling, but there are many that are supportive of her Right To Live. I support that for her.

Posted by: Ruth at March 19, 2005 11:56 AM

"Voice of Reason" is one of those folks who will not allow the FACTS to get in the way of his OPINION.
He needs our prayers that he (or she) will practice TOLERANCE for those of us who are COMPASSIONATE about the DISABLED of our society.

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 11:58 AM

Caryn, under what authority is your diagnosis? Have you seen any of her brain scans? Are you so gullible that you would believe any story?

It makes me wonder why people keep saying there is no cerebral cortex? What happened to it? Did it just vanish? As far as I know Terri did not suffer any head injury, so what happened to her Cerebral Cortex????

Please check Sarah Scantlin's situation and see what outward sign of life she had shown before she came out of her coma?

Posted by: sujata at March 19, 2005 12:02 PM

We have heard nothing from the Carter Center or Libary re: President Jimmy Carter's position on this matter. He was president prior to the popularity of the culture of death in America.

He works for international human rights. Why the silence? He has not been silent on the death penalty.

The only contact information I have:
mailto:carterweb@emory.edu
for the Carter Center and
mailto:carter.library@nara.gov
for the Carter Library

Does anyone else have any other contact information?

Robert W. Smith MD

Posted by: Robert W. Smith MD at March 19, 2005 12:06 PM

You are anything but the voice of reason! I'm caring for my severely brain damaged husband now for over 15 years and I do know a whole lot about closed head injuries , Pvs, rehabilitation , speach and motor apraxia, aphasia, feeding tubes etc, etc, etc. I also worked with many head injured, even a young lady who had half her brain out and she had a higher level of function than my husband. Also when brain damage occurs, you no longer think the same way as you did.
You are extremely insulting to all who have a disability and to all caregivers!
By the way I'm pro choice and believe it is Terri's right to choose!

Posted by: Caryn at March 19, 2005 12:14 PM

I hope folks like voice of reason are someday in the same state. When you are lying there muscles atrophied because your husband is off screwing another woman (unless you believe in virgin birth) and your teeth are rotting because they will not clean it and the only people who care are your family but they can't help you.

When you are lying in a hospital bed provided by a corrupt judge and a scummy lawyer (they were both directors of the "hospice") and starving to death .....oooops itts ok in your case since you believe in our right to kill you.

This is not a right to die case. This is a right to murder case. And even then its a right to murder by means most "cruel and unusual".

Posted by: Maobi at March 19, 2005 12:20 PM

If the US Marshals will not enforce Congressional Subpoenas, then perhaps it is time for the Florida National Guard to do so.

According to the FNG History on its website: "Eighteen times between 1965 and 1985 the Guard was called for service in such situations. A few of those calls were precautionary; Guardsmen were employed to help plan for the contingency of violence, as during major rock music festivals, but most were calls to help quell major riots. The Liberty City riots of May 1980 required the deployment of thousands of Florida Guardsmen. Some rioters and looters died, and fires destroyed much private property. It is occasions such as these that a well trained and led Guard performs its most dangerous and necessary state function. And busy is hardly an adequate word to describe the Florida Guard’s state active service during the first half of the year 1980. Never, in any state at any time, has a state National Guard performed so much active state duty, computed as man-days of service, as the Florida National Guard between January and July of 1980, during the Cuban refugee boatlift and the Liberty City riots."

Riots? Boat Lifts? Rock Music Festivals? Then why not have THEM enforce the Congressional Subpoenas if the US Marshal Office will not?

Robert W. Smith MD

Posted by: Robert W. Smith MD at March 19, 2005 12:40 PM

Interesing point about the Florida National Guard, but Jeb Bush is the governor. He already HAS the authority under Fla. statutes Chapter 415.1051(2) and HAS DONE NOTHING BUT FIDDLE WHILE ROME BURNS! Do you really think he will call out the National Guard? All he has to do is call FDLE/DCF. If he cares so much, why doesn't he follow the law and save Terri?

Also, while I empathize with Maobi, I do not wish for anyone (not even Voice of Reason) to ever be in the same situation as Terri: neglected and starved to death.

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 12:45 PM

Jeb Bush isn't going to do squat. Here's a picture of him and Gambone (the sleaze scalpel for hire who certified her PVS to beign with) schmoozing it up at a meeting

http://www.fmda.org/about.html

Guess what....his brother's the one sitting in the white house. The phone call is not coming from the governor's mansion to save this woman, folks.

Posted by: Maobi at March 19, 2005 12:46 PM

Sujata, You addressed a post to me but I'm sure you meant it for voice of reason which followed my post on guardianship. My second post was to respond to voice of reason. Please don't confuse me with someone else, especially that one! Thank you

Posted by: Caryn at March 19, 2005 1:08 PM

QUOTE>>A society is judged by the way they treat their weakest, so what does it say about those who want to starve Terri to death?<<

Clearwater is run by scientology and one of the cult's tenants states persons disabled are non-persons.

Posted by: Joe at March 19, 2005 1:09 PM

And now, from the producers of the legendary musical Springtime for Hitler comes the inevitable and even more lame sequel: SPRINGTIME FOR SCHAIVO!

Join Michael and his merry cast as he laughs it up in getting his attorney and Judge Greer to finish the job he started back in 1990: the murder of his wife, under perfect judicial sanction, so that the body can be cremated and the evidence destroyed without any autopsy, while all the gutless politicians blubber about the horror of it all but DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it!

You'll not want to miss the rousing song-and-dance finale, when after Terri is dead, Michael and the merry gang celebrate the way they beat the rap, in a perfect crime more public than anything the Mafia ever pulled off!!

Posted by: Charles M. de Nunzio at March 19, 2005 1:59 PM

Charles:
Not if everyone contacts the medical examiner first to disallow the cremation and demand an autopsy.

Posted by: Robert W. Smith MD at March 19, 2005 2:39 PM

Dr. Smith & Bryan,

The National Guard in the 60's was used to enforce laws not subpoenas. Judge Greer's authority trumps the Congressional subpoena as it is a state issue and Congress knew that when they issued it. They were just grandstanding. They tried to get the US supreme court to issue a stay Friday night to re-insert the feeding tube but they would not get involved because it is a state issue.

Tao Libra,

Nobody is saying "she is better off dead" or "killing her is merciful", we're saying let her die because that's is what she wanted!!!!!!!

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 3:28 PM

The 14th Amendment is a federal issue, not a state issue. And if Judge Greer had been following the law all along to begin with, Terri would NOT be starving to death!

How do you know that is what she wanted? All you have is the word of a disaffected husband, and Judge Greer disallowed the testimony of her friend and family who maintain that she would not have wanted to die. It is hearsay evidence from the husband. Just because the judge allowed it doesn't make it true!

Judge Greer has flagratly violated the law throughout this whole sad situation.

Educate yourself:

http://www.theempirejournal.com/0313055_schiavogate_the_big_cove.htm

THEN tell me that Terri has had due process. She has never even been represnted by an attorney!

Freedom and liberty cannot exist when those who are to follow the law don't.

Posted by: Bryan at March 19, 2005 4:12 PM

Bryan,

Now you've proved that you haven't studied both sides and you are getting you're info from one side, otherwise, you would would know that Michael was not the only source that heard her say she would not want to be kept alive artificially. There were at least 2 other friends that testified to it. A husband and wife are deemed to have a closer relationship than grown child with their parent, so a judge would not consider that heresay. Even if he did say it was heresay the parents testimony would then also be considered heresay, too.

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 9:55 PM

Bryan,

The US Supreme court wouldn't give Congress a stay Friday night. I guess they didn't agree with your 14th amendment issue. Or are they "suspect" now, too?

Why is everybody against Terri?

Michael must be spreading that $1.7 million around quite a bit.

Posted by: kpwoodlock at March 19, 2005 10:02 PM

Not only is there sadness between familes, husband, wife, and children there is a lesson to be learned. The hard truth that no family really wants to sit down and talk about is death or the possiblity there of. If a Power of Attorney is chosen early on in any marriage and a notorized document from each spouse is drawn, a couple will be able to make clear choices for one another in the untimley event of any such accident as this.

Have any one of YOU stopped to think of how YOU would feel if this happened to you? How you could not be there for your families mentally, emotionally or physically? How hard it would/could be for you to be a prisoner in your own body. Possibly being able to identify with some things being said/done around you but virtually NO way to communicate these thoughts to anyone. To not be there when your son/daughter has a bad dream and be able to comfort them. To never be intimate again with your spouse.

Married couples know more about one another than any outsider. No matter how close families think they are, there is no comparison for the level of intimacy and sharing of two people and what their needs/desires/wishes are throughout their lives and marriage. Have any of YOU ever expressed to your spouses what you would want if this type of situation ever happened to you? Of course you have. But just like the Schiavo's, you probably never think anything like this will happen to you.

Terrie's life is of course special and worthy - but what did Terrie want? What did her and Michael discuss one night alone in their bedroom behind closed doors? Only they know and it has been up to Michael to try and fulfill his wife's wishes since 1990. Where is Terrie's quality of life? Does anyone honestly think that she is happy?

Would Michael and their family mourn the loss of their Mother/Wife. Of course they would. Would her family do the same? Of course they would. But don't they all have something in common? Don't they miss her NOW? Haven't they missed her for years? It's a numbing and difficult choice to make for everyone, but who is really concentrating on what Terrie wanted? This should not be a selfish endevour. It's not about the Federal Courts, it's not about Jeb Bush, this should not be about politics, it's should not be about the families needs to keep her alive, it's about TERRIE and what SHE wanted.

POA - Get it today. Don't wait. Don't let this happen to your family. Don't let this happen to YOU. Good Luck Michael, you are going to need all of it you can get.

Posted by: Laurie at March 21, 2005 4:42 PM