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March 23, 2005

Florida Legislature is Able to Help Terri - Action Requested (Updated with emails)

Florida’s House and Senate are considering a dehydration and starvation protection act that would require stronger evidence of informed consent prior to removing assisted food and fluids from an incapacitated patient.

With your help, the Florida legislature may still pass this bill that will save Terri Schiavo. Please contact the list of Senators below. They need your input.

TAKE ACTION: Call these ten Senators NOW:

Larcenia J. Bullard
850-487-5127

Walter Campbell, Jr.
850-487-5094

J.D. Alexander
850-487-5044

Nancy Argenziano
850-487-5017

Paula Dockery
850-487-5040

 Lisa Carlton
850-487-5081

Evelyn J. Lynn
850-487-5033

Burt L. Saunders
850-487-5124

Michael Bennett
850-487-5078

Dennis Jones
850-487-5065

UPDATE - This message has been moved to the top and comments closed.

UPDATE - CUT AND PASTE EMAIL ADDRESSES:
argenziano.nancy.web@flsenate.gov, bennett.mike.web@flsenate.gov, bullard.larcenia.web@flsenate.gov, carlton.lisa.web@flsenate.gov, portilla.alex.web@flsenate.gov, dockery.paula.web@flsenate.gov, jones.dennis.web@flsenate.gov, king.james.web@flsenate.gov, lynn.evelyn.web@flsenate.gov, saunders.burt.web@flsenate.gov, villalobos.alex.web@flsenate.gov

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Comments

So you are a nurse??? hmmm....have you heard of Sarah Scantlin?

This is not about congress, it is about an abusive husband who has moved on but still has been given the right to kill.

Posted by: sujata at March 23, 2005 04:32 AM

I am also a nurse, and yes i nurse people in Terri's condition all the time and alot of patients are in much worse condition and YES THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE. Caring for people is what a nurse is all about or have you forgotten your code of ethics Mr Willis? We are there for the patients and for the family. Nurses care!!!

America the land of the "Free"!!! Oh come on guys, she can breathe on her own and she can communicate and has a right to live! just as you or i do. So what gives your beaurocrats the right to remove her feeding tube and make her slowly and horribly die of starvation and dehydration? Tell me where is the justice in that? She is doing no harm to anyone. Just give her parents the right to care for her as they want to.

As for her parents holding onto hope that she may recover, well hope is not just all they have, they also love their daughter so that gives them the right to hold onto any dreams they may have. I know I for one as a mother, would NEVER want to see my child being made to starve and not given water. This is truly just horrible.

In my country if i did this to my child, i would be arrested for neglect and charged with manslaughter or murder.

Hold on Terri and family and never give up!!!

Hugs from downunder

Posted by: Sandra at March 23, 2005 04:32 AM

A nurse are you, hopefully not one I will ever come up against Mr. Willis. Michael Shiavo cares for Terri ? Who are you kidding. If he truly cares for her he would not be quite so desperate to kill her. Desperate to fulfill his wishes, not Terri's. Husband who is engaged to another women with 2 kids, hah who the hell are we kidding. If Terri dies I will do everyhting in my power to keep this in the media until Michael Shiavo is FULLY investigated for his role.

Posted by: Pam at March 23, 2005 04:41 AM

The religious nuts holding onto this fight are damaging the Schindlers ability to cope with their daughters upcoming death. The mother is on TV talking about starvation and dying of thirst, what a shame. The family should understand that Terry is going to die a very natural death. The refusal of water and food is part of the natural process of dying. The family is being convinced its not and will never be able to cope with this issue...its unfortunate. Its time for the Schindlers to let their daughter go and die in peace....so that they may have some peace. Their chaotic reactions will only bring chaos to their lives in the future.

Posted by: Darrin at March 23, 2005 06:35 AM

Those who on purpose (not out of ignorance like you Darrin) will get their punishment in this life here on earth. So dont worry about the Schindlers, their peace will come from God.

Posted by: sujata at March 23, 2005 06:48 AM

Those who on purpose (not out of ignorance like you Darrin) are trying to kill Terri will get their punishment here on earth one way or other. Don't worry about the Schindler, their peace will come from God.

Posted by: sujata at March 23, 2005 06:49 AM

NO one is trying to kill Terry, she's dying all by herself. If it was my child, I'd let him or her go without a doubt.
The Schindlers are being manipulated and when this is all over and Terry dies, those who have done the manipulating will move on to their next 'cause' and leave the Schindlers hanging dry. What the Schindlers really need to do is begin the grieving process NOW for Terry. They are missing out on a very special moment in hospice care and which would help them to deal with their loss of a child. Unfortunately, after Terry dies, they may regret never having taken part in this natural process where a family member dies surrounded by love ones who understand and support this natural process.

Posted by: Darrin at March 23, 2005 07:06 AM

Help, we're being invaded by trolls.

Posted by: powersthatblog at March 23, 2005 07:10 AM

Darrin -

Starvation and dehydration was another way the Nazis killed the Jew... But I guess that was "natural"?

So let me ask you this.. I work at a nursing home since some of the people there aren't fully capable should we stop feeding them all together???

Michael Shaivo is a scum bag... He obviously doesn't care about Terri so he should just grant a divorce and have her turned over to the family.... Michael's new fiance should feel real proud....

Posted by: Amber at March 23, 2005 07:11 AM

I debate that your brain is fully functioning Darrin (at least your heart isn't). Why don't you go ahead and start the painless dying process of starving yourself since you're already dead inside. Your heart is so hard you'd murder your own child so you could feel better? God help you.

I'm sure you don't know this as you seem to either know so little or care so little, but it was the Schindlers who pleaded with bloggers to take up their case and help them save their daughter. THEY aren't ready to "get on with their lives" like Michael is because Terri is still very much a part of their lives.

Posted by: Virginia at March 23, 2005 07:14 AM

The comparisons and personal attacks you are making [of me} are without credibility and a common tactic from an opinionated side without facts. It's similar to the nurse they've brought out on TV the last days talking about Teri talking and stuff. It's just absurd, the woman needs to die and IS going to die, hopefully soon for her sake. Period.

Posted by: Darrin at March 23, 2005 07:17 AM

Darrin

In case you've never noticed, babies can't feed themselves either and they don't communicate well. How do you know they want to live? Are we to dehydrate and starve them because they are a burden? Don't think it can't happen. I never thought I'd be sitting by helplessly watching as a woman is dehydrated and starved while the government condones and defends it.

Posted by: Virginia at March 23, 2005 07:19 AM

I think that it is pathetic that the courts or anyone else would even listen to Michael Schiavo.
He has since this all started 10 years ago, hooked up with another woman, Has had children with her and a continued relationship with her. All the while his wife lays in this state of illness. Who does he think he is? It is my opionion that he gave up his husband - Marital rights to Terri when he began this other relationship. Terri's parents are willing to care for her, then let them and tell her so called husband to take a walk! God did not give us the right to choose who lives and who dies. IF she was on life support that would be one thing, But she is not. The tube is so she can recieve nurishment. Denying her of it is pure inhuman. If you think that denying her of this is ok then tell that to the man or woman who must wear a bag to go to the bathroom. It the same thing.

Posted by: Dann Jackson at March 23, 2005 07:20 AM

Ever consider, Darrin, that we are extremely frustrated and disgusted beyond explanation that there are people like you who take time out of their day to come try to "convince" us we're wrong. You're not going to, so go away. We are fully convinced based on ALL evidence - real, honest doctors, nurses, affidavits, videos, etc. - that Terri (not that's with an "i" not a "y") is a human being who is being murdered, legally no less, because of ONE MAN's permitted testimony!!!

Posted by: Virginia at March 23, 2005 07:23 AM

Darrin - such sensitive skin... no one is making comments that are uneducated... you aren't in the family so pretty much you know as much as the rest of us know FROM THE MEDIA!! don't come on here and be an ass....

Posted by: AMBER at March 23, 2005 07:24 AM

Darrin wrote: "The refusal of water and food is part of the natural process of dying."

Also: "They are missing out on a very special moment in hospice care and which would help them to deal with their loss of a child. Unfortunately, after Terry dies, they may regret never having taken part in this natural process where a family member dies surrounded by love ones who understand and support this natural process."

I respond:
With the aid of Delaware Hospice, a wonderful group, my brothers and sisters and I took part in the natural process whereby my mother died surrounded by loved ones who understood and supported the process.

This is NOT what is happening with Terri. She is NOT dying. Please consider my experience, which is what you (Darrin) are talking about.

Like Terri, my mother could be fed orally. It was her decision not to have a feeding tube put in when she began to lose weight. We honored her decision. She wanted to remain at home, with us, to die her own death, while we supported her in giving nutrition and hydration until the day she died.

I watched the process of dying with my mother. We care for her at home as she was dying. Her system slowly shut down. She took less food each day as her body did not need much and was shutting down.

She never refused food, and she never refused water or juice. We gave her as much as she needed and wanted. The day before she died, she had a milk shake fortified with nutrients. The night she died, she asked three times for juice. She did not ask desperately. She was peaceful, and smiled at us. We sang quietly to her. She died peacefully.

Terri's body is NOT REFUSING nutrition and hydration. It is NOT SHUTTING DOWN NATURALLY. She is not allowed to have nutrition or hydration, not even by mouth. She is being killed.

Rae Stabosz

Posted by: Rae Stabosz at March 23, 2005 07:26 AM

Obviously we will not agree on the issue but thankfully the large majority of Americans believe in this natural process of hopice. I wish you all the best of luck. God bless.

Posted by: Darrin at March 23, 2005 07:28 AM

To everyone who can do something for Terri Schindler:

We as a family and as members of what we thought a just society are completely and utterly horrified about the outcome of the justice system in this country. The judges ruling on Terri Schindler's case are all criminals. We are not afraid to call things by what they are. It is the most outrageous thing we have ever seen in our life.

To think of starving and torturing an innocent and helpless human person to death as an act of kindness and justice is the biggest atrocity and lie we have ever heard, there are no words to describe the horrendous crime this country is committing.

In the history of mankind the only time we heard of this atrocious actions being done, were by Hitler in the nazi concentration camps (the bunkers of death), but at least he was considered a monster by the whole world. What is horrendous about this case is that Michael Schiavo, his lawyer and all the judges are not considered the same way as Hitler was, and on the contrary they are looked upon as good people acting the right way.

Well we think that if this is the right way for this country, then this country has been long gone from sanity. It is a country of evil people that pretend with the misuse or words to be good,(the "right to die" you mean the right to KILL) and the worst part is that they deceive some of us by presenting themselves as being good and having good intentions. Like Michael Schiavo who comes out in TV acting like an angel, yes the angel of death, and nobody dares to attack him or to treat him for what he really is, a horrible criminal who is murdering his own ex-wife in the eyes of everyone, (not even Hitler killed his own family). Even though he should not be allowed to do this by the law who should be defending the weakest part, because he is not her husband anymore since he has not being faithful to her and has been living for years now with another woman. Shouldn't that be enough cause for all the judges to have ruled that his marriage was no longer valid, and to ask him what was his purpose for not divorcing her, if in his heart and mind he has already done so, why does he want to be legally married to her?

I mean there is reasonable doubt to believe that what he said was a lie, yet ALL the judges have taken his words as the absolute truth when he is the only liar, like the devil.

I wonder how all this people go home and eat and drink while they are starving and dehydrating Terri to death? I wonder really how they can actually do this? You have to be a cold blooded murdered to be able to do this, at least that is what psycologists tell us. Yet I am sure Michael Schiavo is celebrating in every meal, for he is getting away with murder and getting a big prize for it.

If you can tell me you can sleep, eat and drink while Terri is dying and suffering so much then all we can say is that there is no hope for this country. If nobody has the courage to defend this woman from this horrible death and torture from this ultimate abuse being imposed unto her,( but you must act NOW) then there is a very dark future for this country and the world when evil has prevailed.

From Sandra Lubreto Dettori and family and the millions in the world who are outraged by this crime.

Posted by: sandra dettori at March 23, 2005 07:29 AM

Starve an animal to death and see if the judge accepts your "natural" plea and sets you free...

Whoever offered the million dollars to Michael should of called me first, for half of that I would have flown to Florida and choked that bastard myself... It's only "natural" I feel this way...

Rob Tabor, C.E.O.
Tabor Entertainment
A World Media Company

Posted by: Rob Tabor at March 23, 2005 07:42 AM

Sandra

Unfortunately, many in this country have become so desensitized to death that they are able to soothe their consciences by saying "it's what Terri wanted" and "death by dehydration is a natural, painless process" or "she'll be better off with the Lord" (when they have no proof of any of it) and then they go about their day never looking at the whole truth, but never letting it enter their minds again. They can't because it messes with their perfect little view of the world and intrudes on their heart causing a spark of pain that might indicate to them that something is wrong, and they don't want to have to fix it.

There's no room for someone else's pain in most people's lives.

As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be at the end.

Posted by: Virginia at March 23, 2005 07:48 AM

Darrin - live in your delusion, while you can.

You are thoroughly convinced this is not murder.

So I propose to you a valid argument:

1. Terri is incapable of feeding herself.
2. Terri is under armed guard - in effect house arrest.
3. There is no food or water even allowed in the room.
4. Murder is an action which results in the death of another person.
5. Terri is innocent of any capital crime.
6. Lifesaving actions have been taken out of Terri's control.
7. Terri did not take any action to bring about her own death.
8. Terri is being murdered.

You can argue with this all day long using false logic, but this argument holds.

You will attempt to use a presupposition supporting your argument regarding Terri's wishes, but argument falls fallacious based on immediacy of intent. Intentions change. If you don't agree with this and that disagreement washed away all the laws in the US, you'd a have to eliminate divorce completely.

You're given now an opportunity to change your mind.

Think about it.

Seriously.

Posted by: Chris at March 23, 2005 07:50 AM

** Read thi$ and you $hould $ee what the motive i$ **


1991

Feb - Terri moved to home with husband.

Jan - Terri moved to Bradenton Mediplex Rehabilitation Center.

Apr - Terri's condition is assessed as improving.

Apr - Terri's husband advised to move her to Gainesville Rehabilitation Center to receive advanced therapy to continue Terri's recovery.

Jul - Terri moved to Sable Palms Nursing Home.


1992

Aug - Terri awarded $250,000 in malpractice settlement.

Nov - Terri awarded $1.4 million in malpractice trial.

Nov - Michael Schiavo awarded $600,000 in malpractice trial.


1993

Feb - Michael Schiavo denies recommended rehabilitation treatment.

Feb - Schiavo and Terri's parents have falling out regarding lack of therapy for Terri.

Feb - Schiavo withholds medical information from Terri's parents.

Feb - Schiavo posts Do not Resuscitate order in Terri's medical chart.

Jun - Schiavo threatens Schindler family with lawsuit.

Aug - Schiavo orders medical staff not to treat Terri for potentially fatal infection.

Sep - Bob and Mary Schindler petition courts to remove Schiavo as Terri's guardian.

Nov - Schiavo admits in deposition that he knew withholding treatment of infection could result in Terri's death.


Posted by: Rob Tabor at March 23, 2005 07:52 AM

A link can be set up to www.RightMarch.com that will allow all senators to be contactd with one email.

PLEASE MONITOR set this up to expedite the swarm.

Posted by: JOMarley at March 23, 2005 08:02 AM

Obviously we will not agree on the issue but thankfully the large majority of Americans believe in this natural process of hopice. I wish you all the best of luck. God bless.

Apparently not, Darrin. If so many Americans believed in this "natural" process, as you call it, then how has this case become so controversial? Why the public outcry? Nice try kid, but it won't work.

BTW, you seem a bit confused and contradictory. There is no luck, just God's blessing.

Posted by: Elmo Q. Shangnaster at March 23, 2005 08:15 AM

Squall, you troll!

Posted by: Elmo Q. Shangnaster at March 23, 2005 08:17 AM

Just learnt that Santa Claus and carollers visiting every room in the hospice were stopped from visiting Terri and her door was shut. What on earth could be the reason for this?

Posted by: sujata at March 23, 2005 08:18 AM

Hang on, Squall, before long we'll be able to starve them to death, too, and the precedent will be set that it's just a natural, painless process. Sun was allowed to die because the pro-death people have paved the way by reducing the value of life to that of a slug.

Posted by: Virginia at March 23, 2005 08:28 AM

oh my great googly-mooglies.... I just read part of an article about whether or not Terri can feel pain. It says she cannot, because she is PVS. It goes on to say that the life expectancy of a person in PVS is 2 to 5 years.
Terri's supposedly been in PVS for 15.
Ummm.
Yeah.

Posted by: Amy at March 23, 2005 08:35 AM

I feel that everything going on with Terri's case is absolutely appalling. My brother had severe cerebral palsy and was reliant on a feeding tube in order eat and get hydrated. If the court rules in Terri's SCUMBAG HUSBAND'S favor then what they are truly saying is that anyone suffering from any kind of mental handicap who are unable to feed themselves, should be starved to death. My question is WHY IS SUCH A SIMPLE THING SUCH A FEEDING TUBE BEING THOUGHT OF AS LIFE SUPPORT. We are all healthy human beings but if you tie us up with food nowhere around, we too will perish from dehydration and starvation. It is incredible to me how heartless our judicial system is. I should take back that statement and say it is incredible how ignorant the judicial system is. They see her as a handicapped person and autimatically take her rights away. Her SIMPLE RIGHT TO EAT. It is incredible how the world works.

Posted by: Alyssa at March 23, 2005 08:37 AM

For those of who think that the laws that are being passed will interfere with YOUR "right to kill yourself"...

These laws are being made for the people who DID NOT have a living will, who DID NOT contact an attorney for assistance. They relied on anecdotal evidence to decide their fate. The laws are for people like Terri, whose guardian and role are questionable.

If you don't want the gov't to step in then make sure you have a LIVING WILL, and a good durable power of attorney.

I agree with whomever made the statement that if Terri dies, we owe Jack Kevorkian a big apology.

Posted by: Rebecca at March 23, 2005 08:46 AM

And of course, if somebody burst into Terri's room with a gun and shot her and she died, the person holding the gun would be charged with murder.
But it's okay for Michael to let her dehydrate and starve to death for however long it'll take and he can just walk away.
What's wrong with this picture.

Posted by: Amy at March 23, 2005 08:46 AM

There has been a silent epidemic of pulling feeding tubes from those who are incapacitated for years now. Those who have a brain injury and have no one to care for them have been quietly killed behind closed doors because it;s too costly and inconvenient, sanction by doctors and insurance companies. When rehap is one of the only things that would help someone and even with that it would be unlikely that they would go back to work they become expendable. They call this dignity. It's not a wonder that people like Darrin have been brainwashed.

Felos, who has ties to the Euthanasia Society after he took this case , petitioned to have a bill introduced in Florida to include feeding tubes as life support along with Rep Bilirakkis (on the hospice board where Terri is at) in 1999. Altho that bill did not go through a similar bill S 2228 did in 1999. Judge Greer worked side by side as county commissioner with Barbara Sheen Todd (county commisioner) for 8 yrs. She is on the board of the hospice. Now we can declare brain injury as a terminal illness.

As a caregiver for a spouse with a brain injury and for all caregivers who sacrifice much, we are not given much help to care for their loved ones because of this horrible moment to exterminate incompacitated individuals. God bless the Shindler family for fighting so hard for their loved one, Terri! And God Bless to all those who see the real dignity and quality of life.

Posted by: Caryn at March 23, 2005 08:48 AM

If brain damage is a terminal illness, I see a lot of congressmen that need to be put down.

Why can't they see that there are shady deals going down?

Posted by: Rebecca at March 23, 2005 08:51 AM

typo-----should read "horrible movement"

Posted by: Caryn at March 23, 2005 08:52 AM

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