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March 28, 2005

Call to Action Now: If Terri dies, "Demand Autopsy" to discover not only the immediate cause of death, but the proximate cause of death.

This post was originally posted at Hyscience and BlogsforTerri on March 18, with the intent of laying the groundwork for what I continue to believe would be a cover-up for the murder of Terri Schiavo by her husband by abuse, juxtaposed with judicial fiat. The suggestion came from a physician reader, and it's time to let flood the medical examiner's office with the message. as he suggested.

The re-post of the message:

One need not wait for a future reporter to dig up the evidence. In fact, when she dies, the crime will be covered up by cremation without autopsy unless we act immediately to assure this is not the case.

Michael's "common-law wife" is his co-conspirator in the coverup (and may have been an accomplice in Terri's murder. Bigamy is certainly a lesser crime, but just as immoral.

Michael Schiavo intends to cremate Terri immediately upon her death. Please see the document here. The Medical Examiner must approve all such requests.

If Terri is killed by Michael and "Judge" [and Jury] Greer, then everyone must contact the Medical Examiner and demand an autopsy to discover not only the immediate cause of death, but the proximate cause of death. It is his ethical, legal, and moral responsibilty to certify that a crime did not occur.

Even Forensic Pathologist Michael Baden publicly stated that he believes that her original injuries were consitent with strangulation.

The Medical Examiner MUST perform an investigative autopsy prior to signing off on the cause(s) of death. He MAY use consultants should he wish.

The Medical Examiner can (and should) be subject to adverse license action by the Medical Board should he fail to exercise appropriate judgement in accordance with the state medical practice act. Allowing cremation without investigation and postmortem examination is not only malpractice, but it is illegal.

If Terri dies from this recent tube removal, we must all contact him immediately and demand justice for Terri. If a crime was committed, then several people need to go to jail including those who conspired to kill her (and cover it up)... Michael Schiavo, his live-in girlfriend, "Judge" Greer, the hospice staff, the physicians and those politicians and judges who failed to act on her behalf.

Contact information:
Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D., District Chief Medical Examiner
10900 Ulmerton Rd., Largo FL 33778
Telephone #. (727) 582-6800
Fax # (727) 582-6820

I hope we never have to use this information, but please keep it available in case the evil forces win.

Thanks to Rockindoc (We have his name and we confirmed his email)

Posted by richard at March 28, 2005 07:48 AM

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I am concerened that even this request may be unsuccessful because if you read the statement, it says:

A patient dying in a Hospice is considered an attended death and an autopsy should be performed if any of these reasons are present :
1. of criminal violence,

2. by accident,

3. by suicide,

4. suddenly, when in apparent good health,

5. unattended by a practicing physician,

6. in any prison or penal institution,

7. in police custody,

8. in any suspicious or unusual circumstance,

9. by criminal abortion,

10. by poison,

11. by disease constituting a threat to public heath, or

12. by disease, injury or toxic agent resulting from employment.

For what it's worth I sent an email to the medical examiner

Posted by: why? [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 09:35 AM


Do you realize how stupid you look?. You clearly have not bothered to read any of the subpeonas, articles or various other documents related this case.

Go to:

Bullemia?. LOL


Posted by: Julie [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 09:58 AM

How about the possible insurance fraud if Terri dies. Doesn't Mike and Jody setting up a company in their own home with a misspelling of "insurance" seem fishy? Spelling insurance wrong, maybe to avoid investigation? Has this been checked out?

With no autopsy, they will be able to collect from any policies they have for Terri.

Posted by: LErin [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 09:58 AM

Frank, how do you know this? The people posting on this web site are here because they belive Terri was wronged and she would want to live and could communicate. Take a look at the dicharge summary

from her original admission and tell me where you are getting your facts from....A little independent investigation on your part would be apprectiated

Posted by: why? [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:01 AM

I've read a lot of opinions about what caused Terri to collapsed 15 years ago and Michael Schiavo has stated that her eating disorder caused a potassium imbalance and her heart stopped. I don't know about all of you, but I do think that going on for 10 days without food and water is kind of a major eating disorder and, quite surprising, Terri's heart has not missed a beat... kind of strange at least.. What if Terri's collapse was caused by another reason ? An autopsy is mandatory and if all I've read about the bone scan and other testimony is true, it might prove (the autopsy) to be a shocker for everyone... May Terri rest in peace when she leaves this world, she's an angel in this evil world...

Posted by: WhatIf? [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:03 AM


I don't like your god and I'll bet God doesn't like your god, either. Look at it this way, He has patiently put up with you for how long now. Why wouldn't He have as much mercy on Terri? Or do you suppose that Jesus' passion and death were God's punishment for His (Jesus')sins?

I'm going to speak to DaveMN about the insurance fraud angle. It will probably have a special place in his documentary, along with the medicare, hospice fraud.

Posted by: mary et. al. [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:08 AM

Did your God teach you to lie and give false witness too?

There is no proof and no prior (prior to her collapse) evidence of Terri being bulimic!!

Posted by: sujata [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:10 AM

God Bless??? Did you ask for God's Blessings for Terri??

Do you call what you have provided documentation?????

Posted by: sujata [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:24 AM


where is the malpractice document....?These are article stating unqualified opinion...("resumably caused by her eating disorder"). Just because a reported writed something doesent make that true. You threw out 4 article to us that showed no evidence or court documents. Although bulemia is a serious and imprtant topic. Throwing around artices does not make you point stronger.

Posted by: why? [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:34 AM


Why do you address your message to me ? I'm not in the God business and I will not use anyone's name (including God's) to explain or understand what happened and is happening at this moment. I truly believe that man is always responsible for his own actions and if someone has hurt Terri in the past, this person deserves to be made accountable for those actions. That's why I strongly support an autopsy and God has nothing to do with this, but the judicial system does...

Posted by: WhatIf? [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:34 AM

excuse my horrible typing,,I sent my original message instead of the one I spell checked :)

Posted by: why? [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:37 AM

Frank,Do you see any instance in the Bible where anyone has prayed that someone should die??

Anyhow...leaving that aside...

Frank, are you blind to these documented lies of michael schiavo?

Posted by: sujata [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:42 AM

W. SHARP, Judge, concurring specially; wrote:

"There is little I can add to Chief Judge Peterson's excellent
opinion in this case. I write only to say we should never cease
to be shocked by Man's inhumanity to Man, no matter the
circumstances. And, a remedy must always be afforded."

District Court of Appeal of Florida, Fifth District.
September 29, 1995.

No. 94-376.

BEVERLY ENTERPRISES-FLA. v. SPILMAN, 661 So.2d 867 (Fla.App. 5 Dist. 1995)

Sent to: Gov. Bush -
Judge Greer has issued an ILLEGAL order (Denying food & water by mouth 'naturally') which violates our Florida Constitution and our Florida Statutes. You have the Supreme Executive Power (of FL) vested in YOU. You are obligated by your Oath of Office to uphold the laws, and as a third but equal branch of power you must intervene to protect the life and liberty of Terri Schiavo - this is NOT about a feeding tube being removed, this is about a Judge being a principle in an act of attempted homicide by withholding, and directing others to withhold, BASIC food and water from a disabled American.
Any literate person can read the Florida Statutes & Constitution. This action under "color of law" violates the law, and by not acting you are an accessory to this. By placing Terri Schiavo in protective custody, supplying an IV line as "basic medical care" to return her to her previous position of wellbeing (as of 03/18/05), and then allowing her access to oral nutrition and hydration is NOT in violation of Greer's trial court decision to withdraw the feeding tube.

SECTION 1. Governor.--
(a) The supreme executive power shall be vested in a governor, who shall be commander-in-chief of all military forces of the state not in active service of the United States. The governor shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed ...
(b) The governor may initiate judicial proceedings in the name of the state against any executive or administrative state, county or municipal officer to enforce compliance with any duty or restrain any unauthorized act.
(d) The governor shall have power to call out the militia to preserve the public peace, execute the laws of the state, suppress insurrection, or repel invasion.

Maybe all politicians and long-time attorneys had ought to go back to Political Science and American Government refresher classes.

Posted by: Raquel [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:55 AM

I have a question to ask.
If Terri is in a vegatative state (which I don't believe she is) then why does she feel pain??
Obviously, something there doesn't add up.
They are now giving her a morphine drip.
Did she show signs of pain?
How did they come to decide that her being starved was painful when all along they have said that it was painless? It must be hurting her.
They are now contradicting themselves.
Why can't that be pointed out and used in an effort to save her?

Posted by: MotherNnc [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 10:58 AM

It may take a writer like Ann Rule or somebody of that type to dig into all of the information about the Schiavo case, assuming anybody wants to tackle it.

I mostly blame the mainstream media for not digging into the matter (the NYT did have an evenhanded piece this weekend about the family rift) and trying to paint this as a political issue on the side of the religious right, a gross distortion, in my opinion.

It's no wonder so many people have had the opposite reaction.

However, the fact Michael Schiavo's behavior is so suspicious, a reputable writer with no political axe to grind and writing for a reputable publication needs to investigate the whole thing.

At the very least Michael Schiavo has had lousy legal advice in terms of his actions which are nothing short of vindictive and cruel to her parents, at worst they are sinister.

Posted by: Susan Nunes [TypeKey Profile Page] at March 28, 2005 11:28 AM

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